12. Accidental Appalachian Adventure + Missing Time in Milwaukee

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AM E Well, hello strangelings,

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it's me, Madam Strangeways.
I'm so glad you could join me

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today.
I've got 2 new true strange

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stories for you, an experience
in the forests of Appalachia,

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and a case of lost time in the
Midwest.

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And as always, solicited or not,
usually not, I share my thoughts

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and observations after each
spooky tale.

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Now it's time for you to dim the
lights, get cozy, and maybe even

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get yourself a little snacky
snack while I read you these

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true strange stories here on
Madam Strange Ways

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story #1 Hiking the Appalachian
Mountains at Night by Anonymous

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I joined this group to tell you
about a paranormal experience I

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had while unintentionally hiking
in the Appalachian Mountain

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region a couple months ago.
My friend and I had a

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spontaneous idea to hike at
sunset and eat subway on the

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beach.
We went to a place called Morse

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Mountain.
We walked the trail for about an

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hour and right when we got to
the beach it was just about

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pitch black outside.
We hadn't thought to bring

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anything but some weed and
subway.

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No flashlights or headlamps or
hiking shoes.

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Dumb idea, I know.
Anyway, all was well for the two

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hours we laid on the beach
smoking and eating and talking

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about life.
It was beautiful hearing the

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waves and seeing a sky full of
stars.

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I started getting tired so I
decided we should head back out.

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We gathered our stuff and
started walking and both turned

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on our phone flashlights to
guide our way.

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Not even a minute into the trail
we hear something moving in the

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forest to our left.
I tell my friend to stop and the

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sound stops immediately.
When we start walking again, the

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swishing is there and it's
matching the exact pace we are

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walking.
So we stop again just to test if

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the sound is really matching our
pace.

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I was hoping that it was an
animal just curious about who we

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were and would walk away, but
the sound once again stopped

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when we stopped.
At this point my heart starts

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pounding because there's no
animal that I know of that is

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intelligent enough to match the
exact pace and exact stops we

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are making.
My friends and I turn our

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flashlights to the left where
the sound is coming from and I

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make eye contact with something
in the distance that was pale

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and had dead black eyes and
looked like it was standing on

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its hind legs with terrible
posture.

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My friends and I quickly turn
our flashlight to point directly

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in front of us and I say please
tell me that was an animal.

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Was it?
And my friend in a very monotone

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voice says no, we need to leave.
Keep your eyes forward for the

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rest of the hike.
The trees and branches looked

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like symbols and some even like
nooses.

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I felt the forest was telling us
to leave or at least

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communicating some danger to us.
After about an hour we finally

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made it back to the car and I
asked my friend if they noticed

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anything about the trees and
they also described the symbols.

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My friend called their mom on
the drive home and she said I'm

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just happy you weren't in the
Appalachians.

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The next morning my friend calls
me and just says we are idiots.

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We were in the Appalachians last
night.

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I haven't been able to stop
thinking about what we saw that

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night.
I also want to add that my

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friend and I did not smoke much
and are both stoners so we don't

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chalk it up to the weed.
Any ideas of what I experienced?

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Honestly, the best part of the
story of this horrifying story

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at every level.
Horrifying for reasons they'll

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get into.
The best part is that your

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friend's mom was like you, you
sweet summer children.

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You were in the Appalachian
forest.

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Come on, I come on.
The other horrifying things,

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aside from seeing this creature
that you made eye contact with

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who is following you through the
woods.

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Also just going out into into
the wilderness.

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I mean, it's a beach, but come
on into the wilderness with

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nothing, Just a Subway sandwich
and some devil's lettuce.

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Let's just take a moment to
acknowledge how lucky and

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fortunate you and your friend
were, considering you got off

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with just some mild
psychological trauma and

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scarring.
How about those symbols that you

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were seeing in the trees that
even kind of looked like nooses,

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Like I, I would be really
interested to see like sketches

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of what you were seeing in the
trees.

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You know, if they were just sort
of like amorphous and they just

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looked ominous or if you were
actually seeing some sort of,

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you know, like indigenous tribe
symbols or even something from

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the Scots, the, what did they
call them?

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Ulster Scots, Scots, Irish,
something along those lines.

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The the immigrants that settled
there.

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I wonder.
I guess we'll never know because

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it's probably been too long.
But if you remember any of those

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symbols or if you have any more
details on it, I'd love to hear

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about it.
Now back to the creature that

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you saw, which is probably still
haunting your nightmares.

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I have talked about not deer
before, which is like a deer,

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but not because it's evil and
also trying to probably kill

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you.
I think that those are common.

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At least I hear that those are
common in the Appalachians.

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So that could be some sort of
explanation.

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When you described it, you know
I don't, I don't know that it

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was necessary to call out its
bad posture.

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Maybe it has a desk job, maybe
it sits at a desk all day.

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OK, so let's just lay off.
Very Also very smart of you and

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your friend to just look
straight ahead, act like you

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don't say anything, and just get
the hell out of dodge.

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Very smart.
Maybe another saving grace for

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y'all is that you did not
whistle in the woods.

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Maybe it was waiting for you to
whistle.

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Maybe it was lurking, following
your footsteps, trying to spook

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you, just daring you to whistle
and you didn't.

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That's great.
You did a great job, so long as

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we overlook the fact that you
went into the Appalachian forest

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completely unprepared.
For anyone who doesn't know, you

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are not supposed to whistle in
the night in the Appalachian

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forest.
A it's supposed to, it's

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supposed to draw evil spirits to
you, which I think is actually

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something that you hear about in
a ton of cultures all over the

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world, which is kind of eerie.
And then two, if something

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whistles, you are definitely not
supposed to whistle back.

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You know, maybe you can get away
with whistling.

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Don't whistle back because
that's said to be some sort of

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creature that's like setting a,
a trap for you and it wants you

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to whistle back so that I can
find you.

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I, it's something like, you
know, if you, if you talk to the

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darkness, don't be shocked if it
talks back and I don't want it

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to be talking back to me.
So or you.

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So anyone listening, do not
interact with any whistling that

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comes out of you know what?
Any dark forest.

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Just don't whistle back.
Interestingly, when I was doing

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some reading on Appalachia, I
discovered that two gothic

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horror icons wanted to rename
the USA from United States of

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America to United States of
Appalachia.

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And those two kings are
Washington Irving, who wrote The

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Legend of Sleepy Hollow.
And if you haven't seen a

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picture of him, if you haven't
seen a picture of Washington

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Irving, I want you to go ahead,
look him up on Wikipedia

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specifically, and then tell me
if if Matt Berry would not be

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perfectly cast to play him.
So Washington Irving, this is

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like 1839.
Wanted to rename it.

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And then a little bit later,
Edgar Allan Poe also agreed and

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he was a big supporter of
renaming it to United States of

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Appalachia because the logic is
Latin America already exists.

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It's already taken the name
America.

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We don't we don't need to be
using America.

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It's confusing, which I think we
can all say people bring that up

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all the time now.
So they were really ahead of

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their ahead of their time.
Edgar Allan Poe, however, didn't

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reach popularity until decades
after his death.

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So no one really, no one really
cared about his opinion at the

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time.
So unfortunately, we are just

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the United States of America.
But there must be a timeline

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somewhere where we Americans are
living in the United States of

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Appalachia and there is no
whistling allowed after sunset.

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It's by by national decree.
Story #2 Entered a time loop by

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Anonymous.
About 10 years ago, right before

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I moved away for college, I went
to a concert in Milwaukee, WI

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with my then boyfriend and two
friends.

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We lived in Chicago so we would
frequently Dr. the hour or so to

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go to an EDM venue there on
weekends.

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This specific time I drove us
there after class on Friday.

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We got there around 6:00 or 7:00
PM and left the venue around

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11:00 or 11:30 PM Friday night
for a few reasons.

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Broke and young with
questionable fake ID's.

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Mostly we decided to opt out of
getting a hotel room even though

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we had for past visits.
So it is strange that we didn't

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thinking back and decided
instead to take a nap in my car

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before driving back to Chicago.
Unfortunately, there wasn't

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exactly a safe spot in this area
of Milwaukee to sleep in a

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parked car at midnight.
I realize how absolutely stupid

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this whole idea was, but I want
to recount it accurately.

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So we decided I would drive the
first half, we would switch

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places at a gas station halfway
through, and my then boyfriend

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would drive the second-half.
We decided this after about one

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or two hours of trying to make
sleeping in the car work.

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Probably sometime around 2:00 or
3:00 AM is when we started to

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head back.
After a few switches back and

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forth in a gas station stop, we
made it back to Chicago and

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parked right outside of my then
boyfriend, let's call him Matt's

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apartment building.
Probably around 3:30 to 4:30 AM

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Saturday early morning.
We, all four of us, Matt in the

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driver's seat at this point, me
in the passenger seat and our

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two friends in the back, spent
probably around 30 to 45 minutes

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in front of Matt's apartment
building just looking at and

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sharing photos and videos we
took at the concert with each

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other.
While we were all watching a

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video on my phone, Matt's mom
knocked on the window and scared

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us as it was still almost
completely dark out.

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Matt's mom worked nights so she
usually got home around 5:00 or

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6:00 AM so it looked like she
was just getting off work.

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She asked us how the concert and
drive was and said we were

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probably exhausted and hungry
and we said we were.

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She then asked why we decided to
stay in the car for that long

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and Matt told her we were just
looking at pictures and videos

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from the concert, no big deal.
To which she replied did it

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really take you 2 full days to
look at pictures and videos?

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We asked her what she meant by
that and she said yeah, you guys

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have been out here for two days,
it's Sunday evening.

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All of us freaked out and
started asking 1,000,000

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questions to her and to each
other.

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Why did she not say something
sooner?

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She said she noticed our car
there when she left for work

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Saturday night but didn't see if
we were in it or not and assumed

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we just parked there and went to
my house or one of our friends

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houses and only decided to check
to see when my car was still

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there while she was leaving for
work the next day.

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How did my car still have gas?
My car had about 3/4 of a tank

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at this point, having filled up
about 45 minutes outside of

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Chicago.
This was probably the most

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confusing part to me.
I don't know how a car running

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full blast AC and idling with
the engine on would not run out

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of a drop of gas in that amount
of time.

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Could we have all fallen asleep?
The fact that there were four of

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us, all independent of each
other, makes it hard for me to

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believe we all fell asleep for
two full days without ever

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waking up, deciding to maybe go
inside Matt's house or maybe go

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home.
Our two friends also had their

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cars parked at Matt's, so if
they were that tired, they could

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have gotten in their own cars
and left.

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No one used the bathroom, ate or
drank water.

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Not sure how that worked.
I didn't receive a single text

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or call from my parents.
Granted they didn't exactly

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hover over me obviously, but two
days our two friends left after

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we all collectively asked Matt's
mom clarifying questions and got

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sufficiently confused and
freaked out and Matt and I drove

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to my parents house 15 ish
minutes away.

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At this point it was about 9:30
or 10:00 PM Sunday night.

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We tried to explain to my
parents and they didn't believe

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me.
I think they thought I was

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trying to lie about where I was.
Not that it mattered, obviously.

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All four of us were so scared by
this event we never brought it

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up.
Looking back, I sincerely have

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no idea how this happened.
Not sure if we entered a time

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loop or something of the sort.
I would love some insight on

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this as I still think about it
all the time and fight the urge

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to call those three people to
make sure I'm not the only one

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still thinking about it.
Anyone have similar stories or

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any ideas as to what might have
caused this?

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I am at an utter loss for how to
explain this much of it this

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much.
I can't even use words right

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because I don't know how to
explain it.

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I think our biggest lesson is
kids stay away from EDM,

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possibly Milwaukee as well.
I think I think we can really

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just wrap this up with those
those two learnings.

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Avoid EDM, avoid Milwaukee, WI
easy.

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OK, thanks so much for
listening.

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No, I don't know.
I I don't know.

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It's like that's so much time.
So, you know, the simple

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explanation, aside from aliens,
which I suppose is not out of

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the realm of possibility, the,
you know, the other easy

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explanation would be maybe it
wasn't Sunday, maybe it wasn't

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actually Sunday.
Like I don't, I think with all

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your funds, you would easily
figure out that it is Sunday,

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that you did lose time.
Time was lost.

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I I understand why you guys
don't want to talk about it and

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and haven't but it would be
great if you did.

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It would be great if you did
though so that you can update us

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and let us know.
Oh yeah, they all remember it

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the same way.
Or maybe it was all just a weird

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dream.
I wouldn't that be nice.

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Even if y'all were drugged.
Assuming that you didn't take

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some sort of EDM drug while you
were there, which definitely

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would not explain this amount of
time being lost even if you were

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all for drugged.
It wouldn't have waited until

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you drove back.
It would have happened

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immediately.
So what happened?

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I'm I'm glad though, that it
seems like you escaped the

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situation unscathed.
I'm still sorry that y'all had

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to go through that.
I mean, that's just, it's

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terrifying to think about that
you can't explain where you've

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been or how you haven't eaten or
peed or drink water.

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That's what's crazy.
How did you?

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OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, let's go
back to aliens.

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OK, let's go back to everyone's
favorite explanation for lost

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time.
You know, if it's not a fugue

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state, if it's something that's
that's shared between 4

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different people, then aliens I
aliens, aliens, aliens.

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For those not familiar with the
lost time equals aliens

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explanation, it's said that
losing time like that is is an

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indicator that you have possibly
been abducted by aliens or

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you've had some sort of exposure
to what they call non human

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intelligence.
Which does not always

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necessarily mean actual like
little green creatures, little

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green aliens.
Although obviously if you are

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into aliens, they are not green,
they are Gray, they are little

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and Gray, or they are super tall
and blonde and Nordic.

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Just picture the band ABBA or on
the opposite side of the scale

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you have these massive, just
gigantic terrifying praying

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mantis and sectoid type
creatures.

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Personally I picture Zorac from
Space Ghost and I don't know

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which ones are responsible for
abductions, but if I had to

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guess I would guess the Grays.
And if I also had to guess, I

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feel like the Grays would be the
most likely race of aliens to

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enjoy EDM.
So that may be that may be how

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we tie that all together.
I guess in the words of the

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late, great Douglas Adams, time
is an illusion.

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Lunchtime doubly so.
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My friend called.
The fuck are you trying to scare

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me?
You bad Kitty.

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You're so bad, you bad baby.
Good night.