July 2, 2024

3. Mysterious Knocking + Midwest Not Deer Sighting | Real Eerie Paranormal Stories

3. Mysterious Knocking + Midwest Not Deer Sighting | Real Eerie Paranormal Stories

♥ Thank you to Fizzy & Oogerooger for granting permission to read your strange stories. The first story involves ghostly knocking that may be a portent of death... and the second story features a Not Deer sighting in the rural midwest.


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to the Strange stories.
What made you believe in the

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paranormal by Fizzy?
To preface this, prior to this

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event I was a hardcore atheist.
I didn't believe in any

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afterlife or anything
paranormal.

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My view has changed pretty
dramatically.

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Now, I don't know what I
believe, but I know that there

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is something more than meets the
eye.

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I had something happen that I
can't explain.

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I had a very large kidney stone.
It's pretty routine for me.

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I get them a lot.
So we went ahead and scheduled a

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surgery.
They broke up the stone with a

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laser and put a stent into my
tube to help the fragments pass.

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I was recovering at home when my
temperature started rising and I

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started having pain worse than
anything I've ever felt.

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I took pain medicine and it
didn't help at all.

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I sat there for several hours,
kind of delirious with pain and

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fever.
My husband had to work the next

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morning so I told him to go to
bed.

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I figured I would be fine, just
needed to get through the pain.

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He had been in bed about 15
minutes when he comes back into

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the living room and asks what I
want.

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I was totally confused and asked
what he meant.

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He said that he had heard me
knocking on the wall and wanted

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to know what I needed.
I told him I didn't knock and he

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should go back to bed.
He did.

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I sat there for a while longer
but started getting really

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nauseous.
I was also thinking about him

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hearing knocking.
I'm not normally superstitious,

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but something about that just
felt off to me.

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So I decided to go to the ERI
got him up and off we went.

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After a long series of tests,
they discovered that I had a

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staph infection, blood poisoning
essentially, probably caused by

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a stent that had been
contaminated.

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They gave me an IV bag of
antibiotics and some stronger

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oral antibiotics.
They couldn't admit me because

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my specialist didn't have
admitting privileges with that

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hospital.
They suggested that I go to the

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hospital where he had admitting
privileges.

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I didn't really want to do that,
so I went back home.

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That's when the knocking began
in earnest.

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All over our house, inside,
outside, different areas of the

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house for two days straight.
The entire time I ran a high

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fever.
My fever stayed right around 101

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to 102.
And the whole time knocking, it

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was so bad that we thought
someone was messing with us.

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But if someone was messing with
us, how are they able to knock

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on the bedroom doors and inside
walls?

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I am a very very skeptical
person but I cannot explain it.

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We both heard it all over the
house.

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Well two days later my fever
broke and the knocking stopped.

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We have not heard it a single
time since.

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I don't know what happened, all
I know is that it has made me re

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evaluate everything I thought I
knew.

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Fizzy, I am so glad that you
listened to your gut when your

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husband started hearing those
knocking sounds.

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I know when you're really ill
like you were, that you're not

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always thinking straight and
it's difficult to make good

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decisions for yourself.
But I am so proud of you for

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listening to your instinct and
for heeding what you

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understandably considered a
portent of potentially death.

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I mean, I, I think it really
can't be understated how

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dangerous a situation that could
have been if, if that knocking

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had not happened, if your
husband had not heard it, if he

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had not come out to check on
you, and if you had not put

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together the common phrase death
comes knocking.

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So I am so pleased that you got
the treatment that you needed

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and that you are hopefully happy
and healthy now.

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Now that phrase death comes
knocking does have a root in

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folklore.
Probably most cultures have

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superstitions about knocking.
I mean, think about it, how

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common knocking is when you're
listening to tales of the

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supernatural.
There's poltergeists, although

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this does not sound like a
poltergeist, unless it was a

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poltergeist who was actually a
fan of yours and knew something

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was wrong.
I was trying to warn you, but I

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don't think that's the
poltergeist demo.

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So I think we can cross that off
the list.

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Now an Irish and Scottish Welsh
lore in particular, there's a

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lot of knocking that comes in
threes that heralds an upcoming

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death, generally someone else's
death and not your own.

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Although I don't think we'll
ever know exactly how many

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knocks your husband heard that
first time, It's possible he

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heard three.
Oof that's so creepy.

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But I'm so glad he heard them.
Now in Scottish lore, yes there

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are the three knocks that are
important for death, but you

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could also hear bells instead
and that would also signal

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death.
In Wales, they have what are

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called mine goblins or
cobblinae, and when some of the

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Welsh immigrants arrived in
Pennsylvania and began working

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the mines, that's when you start
seeing that folklore transfer

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over to America.
So in the Pennsylvania mines

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they started talking about
knackers.

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If you were from Cornwall,
England, otherwise known as

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knockers, you may know the
Stephen King book Tommyknockers

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which is based on loosely the
folklore of the knockers or the

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Welsh mind goblins.
So sometimes they would be

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considered good and friendly,
maybe cheeky or impish at worst,

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and other times they would be
considered malevolent and

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ominous.
So the knocking, some believed,

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was to lead you to a vain rich
in the type of ore you are

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mining, whereas other people
felt it was a threat, a sign of

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imminent mine collapse, which
happened often or still.

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Other people thought it was a
friendly warning to warn the

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miners that they needed to
escape quickly when mining fell

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out of practice, though those
knockers then moved into the

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surrounding houses around the
mines and continued their

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knocking habits, but
specifically as an omen for an

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upcoming death.
So I ask you, Fizzy, if you have

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any sort of ancestry that ties
to either Cornwall in England,

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which those immigrants made-up a
lot of minors, or Welsh

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ancestry, since that's where
part of this folklore came from.

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Or even if you have ancestry
back into Pennsylvania or just

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the Northeast in general, I
think it would be fair to say

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that maybe this was a maybe this
was a knocker, maybe this was a

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cobble.
And I, you know, I think it's

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possible that they were being
friendly.

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This was not a threatening one.
This was a friendly 1.

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So I would be really interested
to hear if you've had any other

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experiences where this creature
has possibly been looking out

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for you.
I hope you never have a

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situation in which you hear
these knocks again, but that if

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you do that, it is just as
helpful as this experience.

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Work and live in the rural
Midwest outdoors.

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There are things that live out
here with me by Ogre Ogre.

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I'll start this off by saying I
grew up completely, 100% adamant

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that the paranormal isn't real.
It can all be rationalized and

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that people who believed in it
haven't thought about it hard

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enough.
I've made other posts on other

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Subs about paranormal events
that have happened in my life

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recently that have completely
changed my mind, primarily about

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my neighbour's house.
That's not what I'll be talking

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about today though.
I live in the Midwest.

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I live on a small rural lot
between a cornfield and a small

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forest in a camper.
I've lived in this county my

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entire life.
I know the entire county like

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the back of my hand.
This being said, I've come to

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the conclusion that my
experiences around the rural and

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wooded parts of this county are
crawlers.

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I'm 100% sure of it.
I've had many encounters,

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actually none back-to-back, but
they happen frequently.

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There is a forest or park in the
middle of the town.

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I always hated at night since I
was little.

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As I got older my cousin and I
thought getting scared was

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really fun.
We'd go there at night on

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purpose but never lasted long.
I always felt like I was being

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watched.
This on top of urban legends of

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people going missing here at
night made me feel really

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uneasy.
Fast forward to a few years ago,

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I got married and am settling
into life as a husband.

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I'd take my large all black
German Shepherd Fenrier on walks

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with me at night.
I always walk towards the park,

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but I usually don't enter into
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The first time something weird
happened was five years ago.

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I was walking Fenrier in the
woods to the front and to the

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right of me.
To the left and behind me was a

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neighborhood edge in a small
playground.

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Went silent.
My dog started acting super

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anxious.
He's usually a very stoic and

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quiet dog.
He's 120 lbs and built like a

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tank.
Looks very intimidating and he

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knows it.
I heard rustling in the woods

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following me and I felt like I
was being stalked.

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I ran home and that's the end of
the first encounter.

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I had a few more encounters like
that, but last year things

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really amped up.
I was on a walk around 11:30 PM

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with Fenrier, my wife, and our
little newer dog Booger.

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He's a terrier chi mix.
We are walking down the same

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path and about 3 blocks away
from the woods 4 or so deer are

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sprinting out of the trees into
the street towards us and they

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seem terrified.
Then I can hear what I can only

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describe as what sounded like a
human trying to mimic the sounds

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of a monkey.
I thought it was silly until

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recently when I read that other
guy's story who heard the same

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fucking thing.
We laughed it off as some kids

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playing around.
Once we got up to the woods and

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were walking parallel, we can
clearly see two reflective eyes

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and a silhouette staring us down
from the tree line.

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We also heard a deep growl and
then like a hissing sound, but

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it wasn't super high pitched or
anything.

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Both our dogs acknowledged this
as well.

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Fen stared and Booger growled a
bit.

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I made a Facebook post on the
community's Facebook group and

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other people told similar
stories around town.

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Around this time I got a job as
a tour guide or maintenance for

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rail explorers.
I am working there again this

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year as well.
We start April first.

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Basically they take unused or
tour specific railroad sections

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that aren't used federally and
then they have these pedal carts

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with motor assist on them you
can use to explore the tracks.

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It's super cool and super fun.
The one I work at is like 5

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minutes from where I live and it
goes through the woods and an

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inaccessible part of the county
unless you float down the river

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and hike up steep loose dirt
hills.

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You go under 1 old car bridge
and you go over 2 multi 100 foot

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length old train bridges.
The first one is larger and

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taller and it's about 150 feet
off the ground above the forest.

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The second goes over the river
about six months into the job

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and it's fall.
We work until midnight

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sometimes, with the last tour
leaving around 9:00 PM.

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That means the last tour for the
last two months of the year are

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in complete darkness.
The way that job operates is

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with six employees, 4 get on the
lead bike and two get on the

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rear bike.
From the lead bike we drop off

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one person at the busy
intersection so they can flag

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traffic and one person gets
dropped off at the large train

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bridge that goes over the woods.
The person at the bridge gives a

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short safety speech to the
customers who stop and go one at

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a time over the bridge.
The employee carts are much

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faster than the customer ones.
We all have walkie talkies and

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we usually have these battery
powered floodlights on stands we

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use so the customers can see us
and light up safety vests.

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On one particular night we were
behind by 20 or so minutes.

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Instead of leaving the depot at
sunset, we were leaving at dusk.

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I was stationed at the high
bridge.

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By the time we reached the
bridge it was pitch black aside

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from the stars providing a
little light.

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My Co workers dropped me off and
waited with me until the 1st

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customer arrived.
I gave the little speech to the

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first card of four.
I chatted with them a little

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bit.
I was trying to buy some time

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and wait for the next customer
card so there wasn't a massive

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gap for my coworkers who have to
flip the bikes around.

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After a few minutes I let these
customers leave and I was alone.

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I was alone for 20 minutes.
I used the radio so many times

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but it was static for everybody.
One of the only times we've ever

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had an issue like that as well.
I kept seeing movement in the

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tree line.
I kept hearing fast footsteps

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all around me in every
direction.

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I had the floodlight on above my
head so everyone and everything

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could see me, but I couldn't see
shit.

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I turned off the floodlight and
used my personal flashlight.

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I kept seeing quick glimpses of
pale skin moving quickly, but

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right when I started seeing
stuff I could hear the next

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customer cart coming close so I
turned the light back on and

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waited for them to come around
the corner.

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When they pulled up I noticed
they had a little boy with them

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and he's scared of the dark.
I'm terrified at this point but

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have to act appropriate even
more so because of this boy.

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I do not want to scare him.
As I'm finishing my speech I

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hear movement right behind me
and say Jesus fucking Christ and

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spin around with my flashlight
on instinct.

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Poor kid.
I told them it was probably just

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a deer and they're good to go
across the bridge that same

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night.
The person stationed at the

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intersection.
This isn't like an in town

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intersection.
It's very rural.

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It's right next to a massive
cornfield.

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He's Native American and was
very in tune with his culture.

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He told me privately a few weeks
later that he heard rustling in

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the cornfield and whatever was
out there was whispering his

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name and trying to get him into
the field.

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He was also without
communication for those 20

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minutes, but he wasn't in the
woods and could see a lot better

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than me another time.
Me and that same Co worker were

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headed back on the front cart.
We were a way ahead so we

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stopped the cart in the middle
of the high bridge.

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It sounds scary.
I'm a bit afraid of heights and

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this bridge has massive gaps
between the planks you could fit

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through but after doing it so
often you get used to it.

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It was a clear night and we were
watching the stars and having

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small talk.
Then it goes silent.

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We are 100 and so feet in the
air above the woods.

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We can hear for miles the dogs
barking across the river. 2

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miles can be heard without even
seeing the houses.

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We hear what sounds like a human
mimicking a monkey noise and we

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hear growling.
He looks at me completely

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seriously and tells me in a
stern tone that we need to get

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out of here right now.
I drive the fuck out of there

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and he moved states to Nevada
shortly after this.

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A few other things happened here
and there, and to Co workers as

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well.
Each of my Co workers have at

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least one story.
I'm only sharing mine in this

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post otherwise it'd be too long.
A few months go by and it's late

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fall around the middle of
November.

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I drive through that park in
town a lot when I just want to

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go for a drive.
I had my dog Fenrir with me and

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it's around 2.
AMI can't sleep so I'm listening

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to a Melvin CD and driving
leisurely through the park.

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As soon as I get past the
entrance gates I feel really

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uneasy and weird.
I'm not easily scared.

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Going to that park at night
makes me feel a primal fear.

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It's beyond fight or flight.
I have never felt that way in my

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life anywhere else ever.
And I feel it every time I'm

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there.
I'm driving through the park and

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I've rolled the windows up a lot
more.

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Van Reer can still poke his head
out but can't leap out.

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As I go deeper into the woods, I
feel worse and worse.

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I decided not to turn around
because I'm already past the

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halfway point.
Turning around would just make

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me stay in the woods longer.
I started speeding where there

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weren't turns I couldn't see
around.

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I round the last corner and what
I saw made me have nightmares

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for months.
There was a pale skinny

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humanoid, tall and lanky, not
quite human, fucking crawling on

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its hands and feet.
But it was crawling fast as

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fuck. 20 mile an hour type shit.
We don't have bears here.

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The only animal that size are
large humans and deer.

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That wasn't a deer.
It went from my right, crossed

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the street and went into the
tree line.

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Fenrir saw it too.
He doesn't bark at animals, not

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even other dogs.
He went ballistic.

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He was trying to force himself
out of the small gap in the

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window, nearly foaming at the
mouth and snarling.

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He never, ever acts like that.
I'm a certified dog trainer and

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I've raised him from birth.
Most recently I've become

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obsessed with this park.
I've walked there at night from

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my camper to the park with
Fenrir.

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I'll never do it again.
I didn't see a figure this time.

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As I was entering the park a
massive owl flew by my head so

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close I could have smacked at
mid flight.

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This made me feel weird for some
reason.

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As soon as I get into the park I
feel extremely weird, anxious

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and nauseous.
I walk a few 100 yards to the

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only street light in the entire
park and I turn around and face

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the woods.
Me and Fenrir stand there frozen

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for like 10 minutes.
The silence was deafening.

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Any time I heard something I'd
jump.

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Fen was anxious as hell too.
He kept staring into a certain

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part in the woods a ways off.
I swear I saw eyes in there

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every once in a while.
I built up the courage to walk

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out and I haven't gone back
since.

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It'll be interesting to see what
happens at my job this year.

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I wanted to add that the county
I live in is packed full of

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abandoned mines, hundreds of
them

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hooker.
I do not know how you are able

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to do the job that you do
terrifying creature sightings

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aside that tall bridge with the
slats that are far enough apart

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that you can fall through them.
Absolutely not absolutely not.

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You need a raise.
Let's get let's let's get Ogura

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raise everybody.
So we're back to mines.

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Even though the last story did
not take place in a mine, I did

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link it back to mines.
And by pure synchronicity,

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because I picked these two
episodes based purely on length,

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somehow they've made it into the
same episode, so we're just

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going to roll with it.
Mines.

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I love that you just kind of
threw that detail in at the end,

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as if everything else wasn't
already horrifying.

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Now there's lots of abandoned
mines all over the place, lots

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of little creepy hidey holes for
creatures to hide.

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So I wonder, you know, if these
creatures do live in a mine, if

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they live in mines, You know,
how some amphibians and probably

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other animals that live in pure
darkness, you know, don't have a

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need necessarily for the same
kind of eyes that you do if

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you're in the sun.
And their skin is also really

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pale.
You know, that kind of explains

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to me what you're seeing.
So maybe that is their natural

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habitat.
I know crawlers are a relatively

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new phenomenon and not
necessarily considered a

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Cryptid.
I know that there's a lot of

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discourse online as to whether
or not crawlers are cryptids, or

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if they're more along the lines
of creepypasta creations like

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Slender Man and The Rake.
But I believe that you're seeing

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something, and Fenn saw it too,
your gigantic German Shepherd,

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who you have trained to be very
good and very well behaved.

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He saw it and he wicked out.
So something's happening for

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sure.
And I don't know how you have

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not just quit your job and moved
to a different state that has

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zero minds.
I don't know if that state

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exists, but maybe fewer minds.
You know, you having that

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experience with the owl flying
so close to your head.

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I know that owls are commonly
associated with alien and UFO

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sightings and high strangeness
in general.

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You know, even in Twin Peaks how
they say the owls aren't what

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they seem.
Maybe these crawlers are from

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the Black Lodge.
Definitely could have come from

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the mind of David Lynch.
Although I think if he heard me

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say that, he would be offended.
And I don't know why I haven't

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met the man, but something just
tells me so.

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Nobody tell David Lynch what I
just said.

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It'll be our little secret.
Thank you if anyone has any

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theories or similar experiences
to these crawlers, these pale,

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gangly, scary creatures lurking
in woods.

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If anyone has any experiences or
theories they'd like to share,

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please e-mail it to
madamstrangeways@gmail.com and I

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may read your theories on a
future show.

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Now Ogre Ogre has more stories
that I will be sharing in future

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episodes, so join me again, Same
Strange Ways time, same Strange

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Ways channel.
Thank you to Fizzy and Ogre Ogre

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for submitting your strange
stories, and thank you so much

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for stopping by for such a
lovely spooky time.

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You're always welcome here.
It's perfect timing really.

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Looks like the rain just stopped
now.

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Remember, if any of the
strangeness scared you, remind

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yourself that you can feel
afraid and not be in danger.

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You're safe here with me until
next time.

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