The Cemetery | True Ghost Stories & Spooky Folklore | Ep #62

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To the true strange story,
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The Cemetery by Tori When I was

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a kid, I grew up around the
corner from a cemetery.

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We never thought too much of it
since we walked past it all the

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time.
There was a baseball field and a

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little ravine.
That separated the two.

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Places that us kids liked to go
hiking.

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Sometimes at night we liked to
go for walks down the road that

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went by the cemetery that led
back to the city landfill.

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There wasn't much on that road
back then, a few properties with

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a couple of houses but not much
else.

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It led to a dead end after a
couple of miles, so we would

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only go part way and then turn
around.

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We would tell each other ghost
stories while we were walking.

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Everything from the Lady in
White to devil worshippers that

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someone from our small town had
seen in the cemetery.

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One night we were walking at
night.

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There were no St. lights back
there, but the moon was bright

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and we had our flashlights.
Remember this would have been

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somewhere in the late 80s to
early 90s.

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When we got to the cemetery gate
we were looking in and talking

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about going inside to walk
around, but none of us were

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brave enough to go, so we just
kept walking down the road.

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We decided we had gone far
enough and turned around to go

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back to my house.
And on our way.

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Back we were looking into the
cemetery of course, and my

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cousin said that he saw
something in one of the trees.

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He was using his flashlight and
aiming it to where he said he

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saw it, but we didn't see
anything.

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We finally walked on a little
further and we heard the trees

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rustle.
Thinking it was an animal like a

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raccoon or something since there
were lots of woods around, we

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searched with the flashlight
again.

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That is when we all saw it in
the tree.

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It was a dark shadow that looked
like a person.

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It was crouched in an old oak
tree on the lowest branch.

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When we aimed our flashlight on
the spot it was gone, but as

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soon as we moved it away it was
back again.

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That's when we saw it pull what
looked like a bow and arrow out

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and aim at us.
We didn't know what to do so we

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froze.
It appeared to fire the arrow in

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our direction and we could hear
the sound of the bowstring and

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the arrow flying.
We even heard it hit the ground

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close to us.
Well, that's when our flight

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response finally kicked in and
we ran home as fast as we could.

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We never saw anything following
us when we looked back and that

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was all we heard or saw that
night.

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We stayed up most of the night
in our blanket for it in my

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living room, too scared to
sleep.

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The next day we went back while
the sun was up and found the

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spot where we had been standing
the night before.

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We looked around for the spot we
heard the arrow hit and found an

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Arrowhead rock sticking out of
the ground right around where we

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thought we heard the arrow land.
We didn't touch it because we

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were scared that something would
come to find it.

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It was common to find Arrowhead
rocks in the woods behind my

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uncle's house down the road, but
we had never found one just out

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in the open or close to the
cemetery.

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That was the last time that we
walked down that road at night

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and we stayed away from the
cemetery too.

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Years later when I was.
Learning to drive, my mom would

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take me and let me drive down
that road and past the cemetery

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and I would still look over and
think about that night.

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It still gives me chills to this
day thinking about it.

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And there we have yet another
Tori story.

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We love a Tori story here on
Madam Strangeways.

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Welcome, Tori.
Thank you so much again for

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allowing us to share one of your
famous Tori stories.

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If you're new to the show,
welcome.

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Welcome.
I'm so glad you're here.

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So happy to have you.
If you're new to the show,

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there's how many?
Four possible, possibly 4:00-ish

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Tori stories that you can listen
to.

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Let's see.
There's the girls, there's How I

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Met Henry, there's the lady.
And now here's the cemetery.

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I feel like I'm missing one, but
I feel like I say that every

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time.
Anyway, you can go back and

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listen to Tori's previous
stories.

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All excellent.
But if you're not new here,

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welcome back.
Welcome.

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Welcome back.
Yeah, you.

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Welcome back.
So happy to have you all here.

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Thank you for joining me for
another episode of Madam Strange

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Ways.
Now, Tori, I can't blame you.

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For avoiding the cemetery.
And even the street.

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For forever.
As long as possible I can just

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see you as a teenager learning
to drive like.

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Sideways glancing at the
cemetery, you know, in the

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street, like, oh God, like
holding your breath, like

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please, please, please don't
follow me home.

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Scary Archer, man.
Archer Ghost.

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No thank you.
No thank you.

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I do.
Listen, I I'm not going to be

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out at a cemetery in the middle
of the night.

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I'm not going to be there
because I'm in bed asleep.

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Honkshu, me, me, me, me.
I'm sleeping.

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I'm not in a graveyard, but I
love the vibes.

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I love the idea of being in a
graveyard at night.

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I love the the aesthetic of
being in a graveyard at night.

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So sad that it went this way.
I mean, what other way does it

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go when a story begins?
You know, at a in a cemetery at.

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Night.
I mean, how else is it going to

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end?
It's going to end like this.

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It's going to end in terror.
Very scary, but also like see,

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and I know I say this every time
that we're talking about kind of

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like a, a, what I call like, you
know, not just a retro ghost

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story, but kind of like an
analog ghost story, you know,

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from before smartphones.
Anytime I love it, maybe not

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before the Internet, but
definitely like I love ghost

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stories before smartphones.
I'm not sure what it is, but I

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know I'm not alone.
I think even some of my patrons,

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I think some of them also agree.
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It's so easy.

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Strangeways.
Anyway, even if you're not a

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patron, what do you think?
Do you, how do you feel?

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Do you have an opinion?
Do you prefer ghost stories that

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happen before smartphones?
Vote now on your phones. e-mail

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me madamstrangeways@gmail.com on
your cell phone.

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How you feel about stories pre
and post cell phones,

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Smartphones to be to be
specific.

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Are you a smartphone?
E-mail me

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madamstrangeways@gmail.com, Let
me know.

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But I think one of the reasons
that I do love these, like

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analogue or, you know, retro
stories is like, especially in

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this case where there were a
bunch of kids together and what

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is it, You know, like, what is
it about?

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It's just so much hearing.
Nothing scary even has to

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happen.
And you guys, and you can scare

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yourselves.
If you're in a group of, you

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know, teenagers and it's at
night and you have a flashlight

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already right there, you've got
a perfect storm.

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For everyone to get spooked for
some reason.

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You know, like, whether or not
we're talking about, you know,

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urban legends or they're talking
about the hook man.

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Do kids talk about that anymore?
Do kids talk about the hook man?

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Are they all just talking about
Slender Man?

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Is this Slender Man the new guy
with a hook and the hooks, like

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on the car door?
Is that a thing anymore?

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Are you a child?
Let me know, Madam.

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Strangewaysthatshebuilt.com Do
you know the hook man?

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Are you the hook man?
Let me know Madam

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strangeways@gmail.com.
But that's what I it's just,

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it's like, it's such a nostalgia
of being able to like scare

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yourselves when nothing scary
even needs to happen.

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You just have to like just just
just the idea that something

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scary can happen kind of gets
everyone riled up and gets

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everyone on edge.
And, you know, like going to

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like a haunted house, you know,
but you don't even have to go to

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a haunted house.
You can just go out in the

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darkness with a flashlight.
The cemetery does help.

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The cemetery helps.
And so that's my segue into, you

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know, this is what we do here at
Madam Strange Ways.

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We, the royal, we the royal
strange we meaning just me, just

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me.
We like to talk about not only

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the paranormal, but we also like
to talk about maybe some, you

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might say naturalistic
explanation, some theories, and

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also, you know, folklore.
But this is what we're going to

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talk about.
We're going to talk about just a

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few things to begin with from a
theory perspective, and then

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we're going to get into some
folklore.

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So I will start with this segue
talking about how just having a

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bunch of kids together at night
with a flashlight is already

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spooky.
You add a graveyard into the mix

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and now, Oh no, it's very scary.
That's what we're going to be

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talking about for a naturalistic
or skeptical kind of angle to

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try and explain this situation.
So here's the thing backed by

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science, BBC Science Focus.
This is from sciencefocus.com.

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A study performed in the 1990s
by psychologist Doctor James

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Horan found that people are more
likely to believe in the

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paranormal if they've been
primed, which is a word that I

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say a lot on this show because
this is exactly how relevant it

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is.
I, I realize I've never, I've

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never backed that claim up.
I always just kind of say you've

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been primed.
You've been primed, but now this

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is it.
This is it.

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Listen to this.
This is a psychological term,

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primed.
Primed is a psychological term

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for when the introduction of a
stimulus influences a subsequent

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stimulus.
For instance, how seasoning

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changes the taste of a steak.
That is an interesting way to

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explain this and not at all how
I would have gone about it.

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But let me just digest this
seasoned steak example.

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OK, we're moving on.
He took two groups of people

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around the disused cinema,
explains Weissman.

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He told one group it was an
architectural tour.

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Architectural, yeah, And they
experienced nothing anomalous,

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he told the other.
It was a haunted.

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Disused cinema and lo and
behold, some people in that

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group started to experience
things.

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When there's ambiguity,
suggestion can tell you how to

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perceive and how to report what
you're experiencing.

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Magicians and psychics use it
all the time.

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So there you go.
There you go.

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This is from the study in the
1990s.

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So sure, that explains why you
guys might have also you as in

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Tori and Co.
This explains why Tori and Co

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might have seen a shadow in a
tree that looked maybe like a

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human with a bow and arrow.
But does it explain why they

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heard the sound of a bow and
arrow and why they heard a an

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Arrowhead kind of like landing
like I'm picturing, like, you

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know, the sound of an Arrowhead
hitting the ground.

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Everybody knows what that sounds
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Why did they hear those sounds?
And then of course, you might be

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asking, but then how do you
explain having found an

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Arrowhead in that exact place?
Well, I've already thought of

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that, obviously, because I have
a few pages of notes and links

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to share with you now.
OK, I I will say I cannot

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explain why they would have
heard the sound of the bow and

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arrow.
I don't, I can't explain that

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except that like I have said, in
what episode was it the

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disembodied growling?
In the disembodied growling

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episode, I do go into how easy
it is to fool our sense of

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hearing, our auditory sense,
very easy to fool.

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So maybe it has something to do
with that.

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I won't.
I won't go into it right now,

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but you can go listen to
disembodied growling after this

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one if you want to hear some
thoughts about that.

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However, what I can potentially
explain is why you might find an

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Arrowhead just in the ground
randomly.

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I mean, aside from the obvious
possibility that maybe there

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just really was someone up in a.
Tree at night.

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In the cemetery alone, shooting
in bow and arrow at children,

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That's possible.
Is it probable?

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Probably not.
Probably not probable, but it's

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possible that somebody dug up or
found old arrowheads and then

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notched it onto an arrow.
I don't know.

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Fletched.
That's a term that has to do

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with arrows anyway.
Used an old fashioned Arrowhead

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and then shot it at some
children.

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That could explain everything.
Is that Occam's razor in play?

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This is maybe not a great.
Example of Occam's Razor.

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OK, no, Occam's razor is that
everybody in that group got

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themselves spooked and they were
primed.

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That's Occam's razor.
Occam's hair comb.

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Is that there?
Was an Archer in the tree

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shooting at them?
OK, no, but for real, I do

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actually have some pretty
interesting information about.

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Arrowheads and.
Specifically, why you might find

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an Arrowhead just randomly in
the ground.

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But before I get started, I do
want to say that I did spend

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some time reading the Native
Governance Center page.

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How to Talk about Native
Nations, A guide.

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So I'm trying very hard to be
very respectful of any Native

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nations that I discuss, But I am
imperfect.

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Highly imperfect.
Deeply, deeply imperfect.

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So please let me know if I've
made any mistakes.

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And as always, I have also
practiced my pronunciations, so

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again, if I don't get those
perfect, please forgive.

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Me, I'm so sorry, I try so hard.
OK.

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So we're talking about
arrowheads, right?

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OK, reminder, this is set in
Texas, specifically around

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Austin, otherwise known as
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Historically, the following
native nations considered the

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area around Austin, their
territory.

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So we have the coehiticons, the
Tunkawas, the Comanches and the

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Lip and Apaches probably amongst
others.

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Those are the ones that I have
found the most in my research.

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So the coehiticons have been in
Texas and Northeast Mexico for

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over 11,000 years.
That is so many years.

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That's a long time.
OK, This is from

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texasalmanac.com, written by
Robert Plochek.

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Plochek for the Texas Almanac
19981999.

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My favorite.
That's absolutely my my

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favorite.
Edition of the Texas.

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Almanac Classic he says in
prehistoric times as far back as

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37,000 years ago, which is way
more years ago than 11,000 as

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far back as 37,000 years ago,
some anthropologists estimate

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primitive peoples who are the
ancestors of modern American

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Indians existed in Texas.
A burial site in the Permian

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Basin dated to 12,000 years ago
was discovered in 1953 and the

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skeletal remains labeled
Midland.

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Many Lubbock Lake Park is at the
site of a primitive civilization

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dated to 12,000 years ago as
well.

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So clearly native nations have
been here for.

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Very, very long time.
So it's not.

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Uncommon to find arrowheads in
Central Texas between 500 and

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1000 years old or even older?
Because archaeologists agree

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that there were indigenous
humans living in Central Texas

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between 10,000 and 20,000 years
ago, right?

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So as far back as basically
18,000 BCE, which is before

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Common Era.
You know, I've been trying to

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standardize the years that I use
or the terminology that I use.

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So I'm trying to switch to BCE
and CE.

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So before Common Era and Common
Era when I'm talking about

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years.
So just fun fact.

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So as far back as basically
18,000 BCE during the actual

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Stone Age, that is during the
Stone Age, which is a very long

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time ago.
But if you're thinking that,

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well, OK Madam, but like, you're
probably not finding arrowheads

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lying around Willy nilly from
the year 18,000 BCE.

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But as it turns out, the Stone
Age actually only ended as late

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as 2000 BCE.
So the Stone Age lasted a very

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long time.
So no, you're probably not going

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to find arrowheads from 18,000
BCE lying around in Texas.

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But the Stone Age did last as
late as 2000 BCE, which by the

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way, is when humans first began
to use horses for

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transportation.
What?

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And also, by the way, did you
know that the Stone Age

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encompasses 99% of human
history?

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99% of human history is the
Stone Age.

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So you know, with that context,
I guess it is pretty

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understandable that you might
find.

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Arrowheads from the Stone Age.
But maybe the arrowheads that

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you can right now currently find
littered around Central Texas

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and Austin, maybe they aren't
from the Stone Age.

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Maybe they're more recent than
the Stone Age.

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OK, but a 1000?
Year old Arrowhead.

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Just in the ground is still
crazy to just find it,

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especially considering that you
can just literally I I.

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I'm not exaggerating when I say
just lying around because you

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can find arrowheads just sitting
on the surface of the dirt like

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they were just tossed there a
few months ago instead of back

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in the year 1026.
You don't have to dig for it,

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which sounds made-up honestly,
unless you're into geology,

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which I am not, but luckily I
have access to rock nerds

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specifically because of the
Internet.

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Thank you Internet.
According to geologists, Central

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Texas has semi arid soil with
very little topsoil, so it's dry

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and dusty and it's easy to sift
through, but also is prone to

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severe flooding.
So over time, the process of

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flooding and drying out and
flooding and drying out and

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flooding and drying out
effectively unearths the old

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arrowheads from the ground deep
below, especially near creeks,

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so that these arrowheads can
basically just work their way up

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to the surface without you
having to even lift a finger.

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So Tori, you know, I, although I
can't explain, we're just, you

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know, we're just, we're just
spitballing mundane theories,

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right?
If I had to explain from a

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mundane, A mundane POV, I would
say that y'all were primed

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because you were in a cemetery
and also you did find an

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Arrowhead, but that it is, you
know, relatively common to find

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arrowheads just on the top of
the ground.

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However, I will add the caveat
that in the story Tori Tori, in

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your Tori story, you did
specifically say that it was not

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common in that area to find
arrowheads, but were you looking

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for them?
I don't know were you?

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Let me know.
Let me know you know where to

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e-mail me,
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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Were you often looking for them?
Or is this a case of like

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cognitive bias?
You know you don't normally look

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around on the ground in the
graveyard, and so if you did

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normally look around on the
ground.

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Rhyming in here for some reason.
If you did, look.

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Around on the ground in the
graveyard.

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Maybe you would find more
arrowheads, but probably you

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guys weren't looking around on
the ground in the graveyard, in

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which case you would only find
one when you went looking.

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I'll never know.
We'll never know, guys.

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That's the thing about so many
of these stories.

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We will never know what actually
really happened.

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But that's it for the mundane
explanations.

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So we're going to move into the
paranormal and also folklore.

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So from a paranormal standpoint,
I mean, I think it is pretty

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standard procedure to see a
shadow figure or a ghost perhaps

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in a cemetery that just feels
right.

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It feels right.
And I tried so hard to find some

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myths and legends, you know,
specifically not only just about

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from Texas, but also like Native
nations that are about.

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Archers or or.
Bow and arrow use.

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And here's the thing.
I kept coming up against this

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author whose last name is
Archer, and so she happened to

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write a book about myths and
legends.

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And so when I'm trying to search
for Coehedicon or Texas myths

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about Archers or bows and
arrows, it's all coming back to

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this one book.
And this one book actually does

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not include any.
Folklore or any myths?

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About any Archers, the last name
is just Archer.

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And also when I'm Googling,
Google is like, oh, when you say

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myth, do you mean a popular
misconception about archery?

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No, I don't.
If I meant that I would Google

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that, I would Google popular
misconceptions about archery.

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Can you guys hear Cleocatra?
OK, but wait, OK, I just used I

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just used DuckDuckGo as my
search engine DuckDuckGo and I

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got a lot better results.
So shout out to duckduckgo.com.

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Give it a go give it a
DuckDuckGo.

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Can y'all can you you know what
duckduckgo.com you can use that.

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You just need to credit me,
Madam Strangeways.

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Let me know.
OK, so now these.

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Better results like to.
Be fair, none of these are

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specific to any of the Native
nations around the Austin area

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specifically that I mentioned
earlier.

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However, this is what I found
regarding archery or bows and

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arrows specifically in Native
folklore and myths.

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Because reminder, there was a
shadowy figure of an Archer in

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the tree in the cemetery.
That's why I'm so hung up on

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trying to find stuff about
Archers from the fitting

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avidarcher.com.
The Lakota believe bow making

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was a gift from the Thunder
beings.

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These beings are guardians of
truth and protectors of the

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people.
The bow enables the Lakota to

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hunt Buffalo and sustain their
communities for survival and

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cultural identity.
In another Lakota teaching, the

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moon gave the bow while the sun
gave the arrows.

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I like this one.
This symbolizes the balance of

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male and female energies.
The bow represents the feminine

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and the arrows the masculine,
teaching the importance of

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harmony and balance in life.
OK, sure.

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A tale from the Carac people
tells of Coyote who tried to

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stay awake all night to receive
the.

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Longest bow and the.
Greatest power.

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But he fell asleep and received
the shortest bow instead.

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Which is I fear I'm the coyote.
I fear I am the coyote.

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However, he was given
exceptional cunning, making him

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the cleverest of all animals.
In which case, I am not.

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I am not.
The coyote in that case,

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unfortunately.
For the Navajo, bows are

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important in the blessing way
ceremony.

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They symbolize protection and
harmony in life's journey.

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This ceremony helps maintain
balance and harmony in the

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community, highlighting the bows
role in guiding and protecting

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people.
So even though none of these are

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specific to the native nations
that are found in Central Texas,

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you know, there's like a through
line, right?

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There's there's something
similar in all of these stories.

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There's harmony and there's
balance and there's protection.

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So then, Tori, here's what I
would ask you.

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Was this figure in the cemetery
good or bad?

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Maybe they were good.
Because Tori, maybe the shadow

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in the tree in the cemetery was
trying to stop y'all from

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entering the cemetery to keep
Y'all safe.

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You know, not necessarily from
ghosts or, or goblins or zombies

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or things that hang out in
cemeteries, but maybe maybe the

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figure was protecting you from
being hurt.

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You know, maybe if you guys had
entered the cemetery, someone

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might have gotten hurt.
I mean, what about tetanus?

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Did all of you have your tetanus
shots?

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Because no doubt those old gates
weren't kept up.

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And maybe there's, I don't know,
rust and bacteria.

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And then what if one of you cut
yourselves and then you got

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00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280
lockjaw?
So really, thank you.

451
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,520
Ominous shadow figure firing
real arrows.

452
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,880
Thank you for for protecting
these children from getting

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00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,120
lockjaw.
Or because I don't know the

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00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,760
specifics about the cemetery,
were there any tribes

455
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760
represented in the cemetery?
Were they, were they buried

456
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440
there?
Because maybe in that case,

457
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,880
this, this shadow Archer, this
spectral shadow Archer was

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00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,120
protecting they're dead from
y'all, which I can't really

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00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,480
blame the spectral shadow figure
for doing.

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00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,600
I mean, even if none of their
dead are buried, they're, you

461
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,920
know, it's still their land.
They've still been here since

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00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,560
the Stone Age since.
So maybe they were just

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00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,600
protecting their land.
But I feel like I can't fairly

464
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,560
discuss, but I feel like I can't
fairly discuss Native nations

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00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,240
without discussing what they
went through, which is messed

466
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,400
up.
So the Trail of Tears, which

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00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,960
I've touched on very briefly in
a previous episode, the Trail of

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00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Tears is the forced relocation
of 100,000 plus probably

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00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,320
emphasis on plus Native American
nations to Oklahoma, which was

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00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,680
driven by the Indian Removal Act
of 1830.

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00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240
That's what it was called.
That's the actual name of the

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00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,520
ACT.
You you may be thinking, Madam,

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00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,560
Texas wasn't a state until 1845,
but the Removal Act was in 1830,

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00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,880
so Texas can't possibly have
been involved in the Trail of

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00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400
Tears.
However, and this is from the

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00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,880
Texas State Library and Archives
Commission, Mirabeau B Lamar, a

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00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,600
poet and former president of the
Republic of Texas, was

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,400
determined to throw the
Cherokees and other eastern

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00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,520
tribes out of Texas and what
became known as the Cherokee

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00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,480
War.
The Texans attacked the

481
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,880
Cherokees, destroyed their crops
in villages, and chased them

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00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680
north of the Red River into
present day Oklahoma.

483
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,720
Rather than be destroyed, many
of the other tribes, the Caddo,

484
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,400
Shawnee, Kickapoo, Delaware, and
others accepted military escort

485
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,000
out of the country, meaning the
Republic of Texas, with a few

486
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520
exceptions.
Lamar succeeded in his policy to

487
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,920
rid East Texas of the Indian
refugee tribes.

488
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,960
So no, technically Texas was not
a state at the time.

489
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,160
Technically, Texas was not
officially involved in the Trail

490
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,840
of Tears.
And yet, you know, they sure

491
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,760
managed, you know, they sure
managed anyway, to burn Cherokee

492
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,240
crops and villages and run them
into Oklahoma.

493
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,320
And that brief paragraph does
not even begin to scratch the

494
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,720
surface of the sheer depth of
horrors that were visited upon

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00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,200
native tribes, not just in
Texas, but of course, most of

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,920
North America.
And we'll wrap the episode U

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00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,160
with some fun facts about bows
and arrows, because I took these

498
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,360
notes and they didn't really
have anywhere to go, but I

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00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,400
thought they were interesting,
so here you go.

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00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600
This is from
texasbeyondhistory.net.

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00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280
The bow and arrow was a
relatively new weapon system in

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,440
central TX 1000 years ago when
the Graham Applegate Rancheria

503
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
was inhabited.
It had come into use only a few

504
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360
centuries earlier, around 700
CE.

505
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280
Remember Common Era?
And that was AD, but now we're

506
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,280
saying CE. 700 CE.
The bow and arrow was spreading

507
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
across much of North America
around this time.

508
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360
On the other hand, the bow and
arrow came into use relatively

509
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,200
late in the Americas.
This weaponry was known to the

510
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Late Paleolithic people of
Europe over 10,000 years ago,

511
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,560
but it appears that the native
peoples of the New World only

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00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,760
took it up during the last 2000
years.

513
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Unfortunately, archaeological
evidence documenting the spread

514
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
of the bow and arrow is largely
lacking due to the fact that

515
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160
these weapons were made
primarily of wood and other

516
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,840
perishable materials.
So there you go, did you ever

517
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,600
wonder?
Hmm, did you ever wonder to

518
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
yourself, Well golly Gee, I just
sure wonder when the bow and

519
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,280
arrow started to get used in the
North Americas, especially

520
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,920
compared to the Late Paleolithic
people of Europe, I wonder.

521
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Well, if you ever wondered that,
first of all, you are weirdly in

522
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,240
the right.
Place.

523
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,840
You are in the right place.
But second of all, same.

524
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840
I also wonder that no, I've
never wondered that in my life

525
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,080
until I was doing this research,
but here we are.

526
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
So what do you think?
Do you think this was a

527
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,800
paranormal event, or do you
think that there's a perfectly

528
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,400
normal, naturalistic explanation
for what happened?

529
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Do you think that there was
perhaps a Coahedicon ghost

530
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,320
guarding that cemetery, or do we
think that arrowheads are just

531
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,880
kind of floating around?
Everywhere in central TX.

532
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,200
Because of geology.
Let me know

533
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,640
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.
Thank you so much for joining me

534
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,960
for another episode And if you
have your own true geez.

535
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,000
And if you have your.
Cleo cat dress being so cute and

536
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,760
if you.
Have your own true strange story

537
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280
that you'd like to hear read on
the show I want to hear.

538
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,720
About it.
I want to hear about it.

539
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,120
You don't even know.
I want you to send it to me

540
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000
right now at
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

541
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,160
You know where to send it,
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

542
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Send it right now.
Stop what you're doing.

543
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Stop.
Stop.

544
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,720
What you're doing, stop what
you're doing.

545
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Well, what you're doing right
now is listening to me.

546
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,160
As soon as you're done listening
to me, you need to stop what

547
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,080
you're doing.
You need to stop what you're

548
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440
doing and write it up for me.
Mm hmm.

549
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Type E, Type E, Type E on the
old keyboard.

550
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,520
I'm going to need to know.
I'm going to hear your true

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00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,360
strange story so I can share it
on the show.

552
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:13,120
And I cannot wait to read it.
Remember that you can feel

553
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,240
afraid and not be in danger.
You're safe here with me,

554
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920
probably.
Thank you for joining me for

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,840
more true strange stories of the
unexplained.

556
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400
I'm running A1 Madam Show here
so please.

557
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160
Do me a strange solid and follow
the podcast.

558
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Leave me a rating on Apple or
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00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,520
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00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520
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00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,760
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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,520
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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,000
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00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,160
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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,840
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00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Said ominously.