Cryptidpalooza: Bigfoot Sightings in Berkeley Hills & Devil's Den State Park | True Strange Stories | Ep #23

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Experience near Berkeley Hills,
California by Depression Fiesta.

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Hey everyone, I wanted to share
an experience my wife and I had

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a couple of years ago.
We've told our friends and

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family many times, and after
some research and reflection, I

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think it's time to share it
here.

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I want to preface this by saying
that we didn't actually see

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anything.
Our encounter was entirely

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auditory.
Neither of us were into the

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Bigfoot scene at the time.
I've always been more fascinated

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by UFOs, so this experience was
hard to interpret at the time,

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to say the least.
The Encounter On April 3rd,

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2021, between 12:00 and 1:00 PM,
my wife and I were hiking up the

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Upper Fire Trail in the Berkeley
Hills.

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We used to hike these trails
almost every weekend, and on

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this particular day we plan to
visit the Botanical Gardens on

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Centennial Drive.
As we came in from the South on

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the upper fire Trail, we
stumbled upon a natural opening

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that presented a less beaten off
road path.

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It seemed like a potential
shortcut to the lower fire

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trail, so we decided to follow
it.

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The path took us on a steep
decline into the forest,

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becoming more overgrown and
covered with tree needles.

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After some time, something
strange happened.

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All sound around us suddenly
disappeared.

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It was like we stepped into a
soundproof room.

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You could physically feel the
absence of noise on your

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eardrums.
While we didn't consciously

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acknowledge this between US and
the moment, we both felt it.

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Then shortly after we started
hearing voices. 2 distinct

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voices coming from different
directions behind us and at a

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higher elevation than we were.
They were speaking or yelling to

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each other in what sounded like
a language.

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Though completely unintelligible
to us, the utterances were

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advanced and had some sort of
structure to them, which is why

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I describe it as a language.
Immediately after the

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experience.
I think I described it as an

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angry sounding foreign tribal
dialect to my wife.

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We froze, exchanged confused
looks, listened in for 10

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seconds, and then instinctively
decided to get the hell out of

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there.
As we literally started running,

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the voices became louder and
more frustrated, as if

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responding to our departure,
which only prompted us to run

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faster.
Fortunately, we very quickly

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found an opening to the lower
fire trail and the experience

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ended there.
We came down the exit path onto

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the lower fire trail.
When we got home I started

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Googling things like weird
sounds in forests California and

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eventually came across the
Sierra sounds.

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The recordings were eerily
similar to what we heard that

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day and we are now both quite
sure that we heard some version

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of samurai chatter.
I'm not sure what happened on

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that day, but looking back it's
still surreal to me how close

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this occurred to civilization.
Well, depression Fiesta.

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As if I needed any more reason
to never go hiking.

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There it is.
I just, I won't be doing that,

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but I'm so relieved that you and
your wife got out of there

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unscathed and also that you got
out of there when you did.

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Very smart.
You know, always trust your gut.

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Story after story after story
that I read, people are

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listening to their gut instincts
when it's telling them danger,

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danger.
So good job getting out of

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there.
And if anyone else, if you're in

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the woods and you're hearing
sounds that don't sound right,

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you know, I, I don't care if it
turns out to be a supernatural

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entity or if it is just a wood
snipe or a normal creature,

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that's not going to hurt you.
I don't care.

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It's fine.
There's no shame in running.

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There's no shame.
You might as well go because

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we're not built.
You know, maybe at one point we

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were built for that.
We are no longer built for

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living in nature like that and
existing alongside wild animals.

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We're just not, we're not, you
know, we have phones that are

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more powerful than the computers
that sent us to the moon and

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they are in our pockets 24/7.
We have food magically delivered

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to our doors.
You know, the hunting and

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gathering phase, like that's
done.

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We're not hunting.
We're not gathering.

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So there's no shame in running.
Just run.

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So what intrigued me the most
about your story was samurai

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chatter.
Like, excuse me, we're talking

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about a potential Bigfoot
sighting.

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I don't understand how samurais
have anything to do with it.

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Well, I'm going to get into it
into a SEC in a second.

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We're going to get into it in a
second.

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But first, I kind of want to
just, you know, I kind of want

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to just make a mention.
I think when most people think

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of like the strange and unusual
and the unexplained, probably

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the first thing that they think
of is not Bigfoot.

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And some of you who are
listening may be thinking I'm

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here for ghost stories, not
Bigfoot stories.

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Well, I would like to argue that
even though lots of the stories

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are about ghosts and are about
demons and are about other

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unexplained phenomena like
demons and ghosts and sleep

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paralysis demons.
Oh my yes, those are standard.

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But Bigfoot is also unexplained.
And when I was growing up, I

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don't know if this is the case
anymore, but when I was growing

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up, I was obsessed with anything
unexplained.

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But it was, you know, the Loch
Ness Monster, it was Nessie, it

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was Bigfoot, it was the Bermuda
Triangle.

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And of course it was quicksand.
I wanted to know anything about

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that.
Or like, oh, Egypt, the

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pyramids.
I don't even, I mean, I guess

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that's unexplained because how
did they build it?

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But I actually saw something
about that said, oh, this is how

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they built it and it was
fascinating.

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So I guess that's not really
unexplained, but it's still

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mysterious, right?
So Bigfoot definitely fits

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within the strange and unusual.
Like it's unexplained.

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What did depression Fiesta
encounter that day?

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We don't know it's unexplained,
but if we are looking at it as

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if it is a Bigfoot signing,
which it does sound like a

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pretty standard Bigfoot signing,
we might as well just kind of do

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a do a quick explanation of of
Bigfoot or Sasquatch, especially

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for the uninitiated.
So you've got Bigfoot, you also

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might call Bigfoot Sasquatch.
Now, when you're talking about

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multiple bigfoots, it's not big
feet.

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No, no, it's Bigfoot's or
Bigfoot.

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Like when you talk about a bunch
of fish, how fish is just fish.

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It's not fishes, it's just, it's
just Bigfoot and I'm going to

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mess it up constantly.
So just get ready for that.

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So typically with Bigfoot,
you've got at least 6 feet tall,

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up to 10 feet tall.
I've heard some stories where

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it's like 15 feet tall.
That's too tall.

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That's just, it's too tall.
Shut it down.

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Just doesn't seem likely.
So that estimates their weight

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at around 500 to 800 lbs.
And by the way, I was looking up

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like, what's £800?
Did you know a horse of course,

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of course, is like 900 lbs.
That's way more than I thought.

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I don't.
I've never seen a horse in

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person.
I guess I just had no idea that

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horses were that heavy.
So imagine 9/10 of a horse is on

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the heavy side for a Bigfoot.
So their fur is either dark

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brown or black or reddish, kind
of gingery.

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They've got like a flat nose,
deep set eyes, pronounced brow

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ridges, but otherwise a pretty
human face and like human teeth.

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Their hands and feet, obviously
those are going to be very

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large, especially the feet.
You know what they say, the

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bigger the feet, the bigger the
shoes.

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Although big, famously Bigfoot's
Bigfoot does not wear shoes.

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Although if a Bigfoot did wear
shoes, I think it would be

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Birkenstocks.
Birkenstocks or Crocs.

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You know what?
Tell me what you think.

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What shoes do you think a
Bigfoot would wear?

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e-mail me
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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They're also known for aside
from famously not wearing shoes

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and famously having very big
feet, they are also known for

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being very stinky.
They're very smelly.

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It's generally described as an
intense musky or skunk like

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smell or rotting garbage, which
seems rude.

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But Speaking of skunk, actually
one of the Bigfoot variants is

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called the Skunk Ape and that's
found specifically in Florida.

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Which begs the question, how
many instances of Florida Man

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were actually just a skunk ape
slash Bigfoot?

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We may never know.
So that's what they kind of look

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like.
That's what they smell like.

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And then they're also shy.
They're elusive.

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They avoid humans.
And they are also known for

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making very specific noises,
howling and screaming and tree

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knocking or wood knocking where
they're banging something

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against a tree or rocks.
And so it's this like, you know,

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if you're in the woods and this
is happening, it's this like

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echoing, like just off putting
sound.

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I I'm associating it with a
scene in the Blair Witch

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project, but it's been so long
since I've watched it, I don't

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actually know if that's the
sound that they're hearing.

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But wouldn't that be an
interesting alternate ending is

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it's not the Blair Witch, it's
the Blair Bigfoot.

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So most of you, hopefully some
of you all and then most of you

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some and maybe none of you may
associate Bigfoot with the

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Patterson Gimlin film.
Like people who are really into

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the JFK assassination, not many
people know the name of the

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film.
They just know that they've seen

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it.
So when you're talking to people

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who are really interested in the
JFK assassination, they're going

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to be talking about the Zipruder
film, which is the name of which

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is what they call the film that
is made of JFK.

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Being I'm not on Tiktok, I can
say murdered, murdered,

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assassinated.
So that's what you call that

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film.
But if you're a Bigfoot

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enthusiast, then you know that
the name of that film, that

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famous shot of Bigfoot walking
with that loping gait and arms

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swinging, you know, glancing
over its shoulder.

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That recording is known as the
Patterson Gimlin film, and it

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was recorded in 1967.
It's probably the most famous

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piece of Bigfoot evidence.
It was filmed in Bluff Creek,

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California, so not too far from
the Pacific Northwest.

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It was filmed by Rodger
Patterson and his partner Bob

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Gimlin, hence Patterson Gimlin.
They do decide to call Bigfoot

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Patty, named after the name of
the film, Patterson Gimlin.

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They call Bigfoot Patty because,
spoiler alert, Bigfoot in that

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film is said to be a female
Bigfoot, which is probably why

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she's not that tall.
She's only people have decided

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that she's only about 6 foot 8.
And I say only like that's

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really tall, but it's not
supernaturally tall.

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It's not preternaturally tall.
So that's the explanation for

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why she's only 6 foot 8 is she's
a she because lady Bigfoot.

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Damn it's hard.
Lady Bigfoots are smaller.

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Although at this rate I'm kind
of shocked she doesn't also have

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a pink bow and eyelashes.
Because everyone knows that's

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how you know it's a girl.
You should put a bow on it.

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So Patty and that film is
probably the Bigfoot that most

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people associate when they think
of Bigfoot.

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If you have not seen the film,
you can just Google Patterson

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Gimlin.
You're going to see it

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immediately.
Just a even just a still, but

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you will have seen it referenced
in pop culture.

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The two things that come to mind
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Elf does a riff on it and so
does the Grinch.

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Weirdly, 2 Christmas films
strangely reference the Bigfoot

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Patterson Gimlin film.
So as if howling and screaming

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and banging on trees isn't scary
enough of a concept to hear in

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the middle of the woods and to
potentially be Bigfoot.

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As if that's not scary enough,
there is another type of

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vocalization that is associated
with Bigfoot.

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And Yep, it's Samurai chatter.
The reason it's called Samurai

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chatter is it literally sounds
like 2 Japanese samurai men and

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an old Kurosawa film yelling at
each other in the middle of the

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woods.
Now the clip I'm about to play

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is part of what they call the
Sierra Sounds recorded by Ron

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Morehead and Al Berry.
Again, if you're end to Bigfoot,

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you know about the Sierra sounds
and I guarantee that you have a

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strong opinion about them.
So let's listen 1st and know

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that these are two people, just
two men supposedly alone out in

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the Sierra Nevada mountains in
California in 1971.

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Keep in mind when you're
listening, the voices that sound

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closest and loudest, the ones
closest to the mic, those are

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going to be the men that are
making the recording.

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So those are human voices.
The sounds, the voices that you

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hear echoing that is allegedly
Bigfoot.

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Let's take a listen.
I don't know though.

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The, the yelling, the the
howling, all the other sounds,

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Yeah, OK, whatever.
But like, something about the

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samurai chatter really just
freaks me out.

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I don't want to hear it in the
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You you will find people who
think that it's a hoax, even

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though it's considered sort of
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the Patterson Gimlin film.
It's kind of considered either

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the smoking gun or it's an
embarrassment because apparently

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Ron Morehead was kind of caught
selling obviously faked Bigfoot

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tracks.
So, you know, was he faking?

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Was he just addicted to fame and
he couldn't replicate the fame

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of the recording and he just
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I don't know.
But apparently that is a problem

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for a lot of people when they're
talking about the Sierra sounds.

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So there's that.
But there are lots of people.

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There's a lot of people who also
claim to have heard samurai

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sounds in the woods like
Depression Fiesta, who had never

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heard of them before, who did
not have this sort of

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information about Bigfoot, was
not a Bigfoot enthusiast going

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into this, had to Google what it
was.

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And then then, then Depression
Fiesta heard the sounds.

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And there's lots of other people
who have heard samurai chatter

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as well.
So which is it?

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Is it fake?
Is it real?

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I believe Depression Fiesta.
I believe 100% that.

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There were scary sounds
happening out in the forest that

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day, and I don't want to go out
and I don't want to hike.

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I don't want to hike at all.
I certainly don't want to hike

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anywhere where there could be a
Cryptid.

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Let's just say so because I
mentioned earlier the howling

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and the knocking and the
etcetera, the other weird scary

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noises that bigfoots are
supposedly making in forests.

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I thought maybe you guys would
want to hear it.

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So here's just a short clip of
some of the sounds.

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And I want when you listen to
this, I want you to imagine you

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are alone in the woods and there
may or may not be a Cryptid

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nearby.
Just think about that as you

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listen.
None.

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So whether those sounds were
made by samurai or Ronan or

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Bigfoot or I, you know,
Cleocatra, who is yelling at the

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door.
So I'm not sure if you can hear

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her, but if you can't imagine,
it's very cute and very pitiful,

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and I badly want to let her in.
So regardless of who's making

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those sounds, that would be
terrifying to hear while you're

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out hiking in the woods alone or
with one other person.

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And I mean, that's practically
alone.

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What I mean is with no means to
protect yourself.

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Oh, that's really spooky.
So if you have had any sort of

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encounters like that in the
woods or the forest, hearing

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noises that you can't explain, I
want to hear about it.

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So go ahead, send that over to
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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I'm getting old so I thought I
should document my sighting

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story by Hitch and the get.
This might be kind of long so I

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apologize.
This happened in 1970 or maybe

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1971.
I was 14 or 15.

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My friend and I were in the Boy
Scouts and that summer we went

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to Arkansas to do a couple hikes
for some merit badges if I

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remember correctly, and one of
them was the Butterfield Hiking

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Trail.
The trail started in Devil's Den

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State Park and that is where we
camped.

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When we awoke, we started the
hike.

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Remember this was 1970.
The trail wasn't marked well and

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not that heavily travelled.
Our gear was rudimentary.

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I'm not even sure I had real
boots.

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All our gear was pretty much
army surplus stuff, canteens,

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compasses, tents.
We must have had a map but I

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think it was not much better
than a hand drawn map.

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I just checked today and it says
the trail is 15 miles.

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It certainly wasn't then and we
had planned on doing it as a day

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hike and just carried A canteen
each, the map and A compass.

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Being scouts we probably had
some sort of first aid kit we

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put together too.
There was a trailhead we could

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walk to when we got up in the
morning and initially the trail

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was pretty well beaten down.
The terrain wasn't too tough, it

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was a deciduous forest, very
thick underbrush.

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It was also summer and would get
pretty hot and there is a lot of

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humidity.
I don't recall anything unusual

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or exciting for most of the hike
until the trail we were

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following eventually petered
out.

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I really have no idea how far we
hiked, but it was pretty hot and

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it was late afternoon I think.
So we realized we lost the trail

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and it was probably too late to
head back the way we came.

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While trying to figure out what
to do, we believed we heard a

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motor vehicle in the distance to
the West.

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We figured getting to a road
would be the best option, but in

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order to get there we would have
to bushwhack through the dense

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underbrush.
At least it was downhill so we

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headed down the hill again.
Not sure how long or far it was

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but we broke out to a very nice,
wide and well travelled trail.

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Hallelujah.
We were really hot and tired

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from going through the brush so
we sat down to rest and drink

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some water.
We were both relieved to at

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least find a well travelled
trail.

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We could also hear what we
thought might be a Creek

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flowing.
This is where things got weird.

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While we were resting we heard
something in the Bush just up

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the slope not too far away call
out.

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The best way I could try to
describe it is like some sort of

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monkey or APL.
Just after that we heard a tree

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shake and heard a thump, a thud.
We saw the top of the tree sway

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big tree.
This was also up slope and

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really not that far away.
The trail we had found pretty

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much ran horizontal down the
slope.

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That is the direction we had
planned on going.

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There was a dip in the trail and
a curve that went out of visual

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sight.
We were curious what was making

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the noise and I told my friend
to start down the trail and I

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would hang back and stay
kneeling where I was.

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The thought was maybe the
creature that yelped or screamed

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would show itself.
Thinking we had both taken off,

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my friend disappeared out of
sight and the creature we heard

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called out again, but this time
another creature further down

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the trail where my friend went
yelled back.

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I couldn't see anything through
the brush and I must have

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realized hanging back wasn't the
best idea, so I got up and

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started down the trail.
I then realized the trail wasn't

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too far from where the tree
shook, the noise and the scream.

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By this point I was feeling
pretty uncomfortable.

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I got to where the trail headed,
straight down the hill and my

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friend was waiting there and we
headed down.

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My friend was in the lead and as
soon as we started down I heard

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something running through the
brush from where we had just

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come.
I immediately yelled at my

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friend to run.
I wasn't sure it was running

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after us or not, but I looked
back over my left shoulder and I

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saw it running back up the trail
we had just come down.

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Like I said, the brush was thick
and I only caught glimpses

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except one point where I could
see its chest, shoulder and

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face.
I was running down the hill

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looking back and it was running
up the trail and looking down at

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us.
It's crazy.

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It's been almost 55 years and I
vividly remember the whole

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encounter.
It was only glimpses.

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I saw black hair, the face had a
Sheen from the sun.

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It was looking at us while we
were running West and into the

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sun.
I know it was pretty tall

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because walking down the trail I
could not see anything down

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slope.
This thing was tall enough to be

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seen and see us.
The rest is anti climatic but I

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should go ahead and finish the
story I suppose.

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We kept running down the hill
until we came out of the brush

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and into a clearing with a herd
of cattle next to the Creek.

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We heard.
We thought we saw a bull and we

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sprinted across the Creek.
Nothing had chased us and there

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was also the road we had heard,
a gravel or dirt Rd. but a road

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just the same.
We headed north I believe and

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eventually a guy in a pickup
drove by and gave us a ride to

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our camp that night.
I remember washing my clothes at

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the campground laundry and
talking to a park Ranger and

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telling him about our day.
He didn't think we were crazy

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and said people see some pretty
strange things out there.

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This was before the Internet and
I really had not heard anything

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about Bigfoot sightings and now
with the Internet and reading

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all these people's experiences I
read and nod my head because I

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know exactly what some of these
people are talking about.

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Like I said, I'm older and I
stayed in touch with my friend

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all these years and I wanted to
confirm what I remembered with

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him and this is what he
remembers as well.

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Although when I yelled run he
did just that and he didn't look

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back so he didn't see what I
saw.

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Again, sorry this was so long
but I felt I needed to document

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my story.
Edit There was mention of a baby

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Sasquatch which triggered
something that I forgot about

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and I will add here.
Just before the trail petered

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out we stepped over a small
puddle that was just mud.

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At that point something caught
my eye and it took a couple

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steps for my brain to tell me
there was something unusual in

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the mud.
I told my friend to hold up and

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we went back to the mud spot and
there was a footprint in it.

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It was clearly a bare footprint.
It was not a large footprint at

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all.
It was maybe 8 or 9 inches long

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and fairly narrow.
We were pretty much in the

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middle of nowhere, and who would
be walking around barefoot out

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there anyway?
We shrugged our shoulders and

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soldiered on.
Hadn't really considered a

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youthful Bigfoot, but thinking
about it now, maybe it was.

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We heard two once we bushwhacked
down the hill.

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Maybe it was one of them, or
maybe there were more than two.

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Who?
No

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hitch.
It sounds like you and your

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buddy spooked a little.
A cute little Bigfoot family

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just going out for a walk and
you guys scared each other.

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But I think that you were
probably far more scared than

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the Bigfoots were for sure.
Even if one is like Bigfoot,

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Junior, I mean, even if you're a
small Bigfoot, you are probably

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capable of ripping A child's
legs and arms off.

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So I'm so glad.
I'm so glad that you guys

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survived.
I'm glad you survived.

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I'm sorry that you experienced
that.

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But thank you so much for
trusting me with your story.

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So this happened in Devil's Den
State Park, which is in West

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Fork, AR and this place, Devil's
Den has it all.

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It's got ghosts, it's got
Bigfoots, it's got UF OS, and

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probably other things that I am
not even aware of.

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00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Lots of mysterious unexplained
stuff happening at Devil's Den.

449
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Which does beg the question that
if Devil's Den was called

450
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:35,880
something like Mossy Acres,
would it still have all of these

451
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
sightings and experiences
happening in it?

452
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Or is there something about the
fact that it's called Devil's

453
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Den, Does that prime you when
you go there for some sort of

454
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
experience?
Either way, it feels like the

455
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Bigfoot's would still have been
there if this were.

456
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:59,760
If this was Bigfoot's that Hitch
and his buddy experienced, then

457
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,960
I think they would have been
there regardless.

458
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680
But the ghosts, the UFOs, I
don't know.

459
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,159
So it's crazy because unlike the
first story where Depression

460
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:16,199
Fiesta only heard the sounds,
you Hitch actually saw the face

461
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,440
and you were even able to see
like the Sheen of perspiration

462
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,480
because it was so hot out there.
So obviously these bigfoots,

463
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400
they're sweating too.
Imagine how miserable that must

464
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,679
be, like having that much hair
covering every part of your body

465
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080
that would be miserable in the
summer.

466
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,719
And just imagine there's not
enough deodorant.

467
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,400
It doesn't exist.
Something important to note is

468
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,800
that there wasn't stuff about
Bigfoot at the time, at least

469
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,639
not at all to the level that
there is now.

470
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,639
You know, so back in 1970 when
this happened, I mean, think

471
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,600
about it.
The Patterson Gimlin film wasn't

472
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,800
even filmed until 1967.
This is only three years after

473
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,920
that.
It's completely possible that

474
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Hitch had not even heard of that
film.

475
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Although I think kids, I don't
know, OK, again, I don't know

476
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,440
about now, but probably kids of
every age prior to social media

477
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,960
at the very least, always
interested in the mysterious and

478
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,320
the unexplained.
No, you know what?

479
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,320
I will say, the kids these days
have to be interested in that

480
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,840
because creepypastas exist.
Kids love creepypastas.

481
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Come on, give a kid a
creepypasta.

482
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,760
He'll eat for a week.
Teach a kid to creepypasta and

483
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120
they will post a lot of creepy
pastas.

484
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,280
I don't know where that was
going.

485
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520
The point is, kids love
unexplained stuff.

486
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,880
So it's possible that Hitch
maybe maybe have heard, may have

487
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,360
heard of, you know, Bigfoot or
like may have heard of things

488
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,480
that happened in Devil's Den.
It's also just called Devil's

489
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Den, which, like I said, just
kind of sounds ominous.

490
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,200
Apparently it's called Devil's
Den because the steam that would

491
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,680
rise from the caves, like in in
the middle of the morning or in

492
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,880
the early morning would kind of
make people think, Oh my gosh,

493
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,920
that must be steam coming from
hell.

494
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Which I guess sure.
Point being that Hitch didn't

495
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,080
have Google.
This was 1970.

496
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,200
There was no Google.
There wasn't social media.

497
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,920
There wasn't, you know, TikTok
getting him on.

498
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,880
He wasn't on Bigfoot talk
because that wasn't a thing back

499
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,800
then.
So, you know, whatever he saw,

500
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,120
whatever he and his friends saw,
it wasn't impacted by the

501
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,160
cultural zeitgeist that we all
exist in now.

502
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,360
So he saw something.
It wasn't human.

503
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640
It was bipedal.
That's terrifying.

504
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,680
As for the other weird
unexplained stuff that's

505
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,280
happened at Devil's Den, this is
a perfect segue into explaining

506
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,560
what some people think Bigfoot
is since there have been UFOs

507
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,160
that have been cited over
Devil's Den, which incidentally,

508
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,640
you can read about it in
Incident at Devil's Den.

509
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,360
A true story.
Which, you know how I feel about

510
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,880
books about the paranormal that
have a true story in the title

511
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,480
and Terry Lovelace signs his
name.

512
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,240
Terry Lovelace, Esquire.
And I feel like you have to, I

513
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:28,600
feel like, in fact, it's
probably important that if

514
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,640
you're going to publish a book
about UFO sightings that you

515
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,520
have Esquire after your name.
Maybe you even go to law school

516
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,600
specifically just so that you
can do that to give yourself a

517
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,720
little bit more credibility.
Because coming out about UFOs,

518
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,160
coming out about paranormal,
stuff like that, it can ruin

519
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,080
lives.
So I think it's fair that Terry

520
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,240
Lovelace thought it was wise to
go ahead and tack Esquire there.

521
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,240
I mean, if he's got it, let's
put it on there.

522
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,120
So the thing about aliens and
Bigfoot is not only are they two

523
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,880
things that Fox Mulder is really
into, but apparently some people

524
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,680
think that there is a connection
between them that aliens drop

525
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,920
off bigfoots like they they're
friends and aliens swing by,

526
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,960
drop off the Bigfoots and then
and then leave.

527
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:32,360
Or there is some sort of
alternate reality shifting that

528
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,840
bigfoots can do.
There's like portals that open

529
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,120
portals to hear from question
mark, I don't know where, but

530
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,480
portals that open up that
Bigfoot's can move in and out

531
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560
of.
Multidimensional is the word I

532
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
was looking for.
So the alien theory is that

533
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000
Bigfoot's are psychic, they are
multidimensional.

534
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,880
They can slip into and out of
portals.

535
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,800
They can communicate with us
psychically and, and and

536
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaking of psychics, did you
know that Lorraine Warren of the

537
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,040
infamous demonologists Ed and
Lorraine Warren.

538
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Lorraine Warren being a an
alleged psychic medium, Lorraine

539
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Warren had an encounter with a
Bigfoot as documented in their

540
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,120
book The Demonologist.
Lorraine Warren had a psychic

541
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120
conversation with a Bigfoot who
was wounded.

542
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,320
She was trying to help the
Bigfoot.

543
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080
It didn't go as planned.
And of course, there, of course,

544
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,000
there wasn't any, there wasn't
any evidence collected, but it

545
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,160
happened.
And strangely, there's

546
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,560
apparently a connection between
if you have seen UFOs, then you

547
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,360
have a higher probability of
actually seeing a Bigfoot and

548
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,480
vice versa.
So why are there so many UFO

549
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,760
sightings in places where there
are also Bigfoot sightings?

550
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,680
Question mark, Let me know if
you have seen both.

551
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,000
I want to hear about it.
In fact, I need to send Hitch.

552
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,840
Hitch, I need to send you Adm
because I did see in one of your

553
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,000
comments in this thread.
That you said you have a UFO

554
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,680
sighting story.
So Hitch is a perfect example of

555
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,320
how some people who have seen
UFOs also have a higher

556
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,360
probability of seeing Bigfoot.
We've seen it happen already

557
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,360
right here.
Sample size of one.

558
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,760
But if you don't think that
Bigfoot's are aliens, or at

559
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,080
least are friends with aliens,
you might think that Bigfoot is

560
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:45,520
actually a Nephilim, which is
basically a gigantic Angel in

561
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,360
the Bible, huge, strong giant
Angel.

562
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,480
And some people believe that
that's what Bigfoot is, is that

563
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,560
Bigfoot has just been around
forever walking the earth and

564
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,240
actually is a Nephilim.
So I guess he wasn't always,

565
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,560
they weren't always on earth.
At some point they were in

566
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,320
heaven.
You know, I don't really, I, you

567
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560
know, I didn't, you know what?
I'm going to be honest, I didn't

568
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,240
dive too deeply into this one.
I'm going to be real with you,

569
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,960
but my favorite explanation of
what Bigfoot is, is tied to

570
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,280
Gigantopithecus, which was the
largest known ape, stood up to

571
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,840
10 to 12 feet tall.
Now remember I said that's 2

572
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,880
feet tall. 15 feet too tall,
Still too tall.

573
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:37,960
That's still taller than
Gigantopithecus. 12 feet tall is

574
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,760
terrifying, and they weighed
over 1000 lbs, but you know what

575
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,800
that means?
That's more than a horse.

576
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,360
That's £100 more than a standard
horse.

577
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,880
What kind of horse?
I don't know, I didn't ask.

578
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Arabian, maybe.
So Gigantopithecus had a robust

579
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:02,600
build, long arms, huge feet
obviously, and some people say

580
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,760
that Gigantopithecus survived
and walked over the land bridge

581
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,920
just like humans did and that's
how they ended up in North

582
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,240
America coming from Asia.
Apparently Gigantopithecus died

583
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:20,920
out just a few 100,000 years
ago, so not that long.

584
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,560
And our evolutionary cousins
existed alongside them is what

585
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,160
that means.
So like humans existed alongside

586
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Gigantopithecus.
What I find interesting is that

587
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,160
no one is saying Gigantopithecus
and humans obviously made it.

588
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,440
And this is where we get book
series like Ice Planet

589
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,560
Barbarians.
That's just seems seems obvious

590
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,640
to me having heard of and
definitely not read those books.

591
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840
That just seems to me what's
happening is humans.

592
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,400
They fell in love, which I can
check in pithecus.

593
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,600
They were actually fated mates.
I'm going to stop.

594
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,560
But whatever Bigfoot is,
whatever Bigfoot may be, Hitch

595
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,480
seeing one and hearing all those
sounds as it's just him and his

596
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,880
friend.
Your kids like, yeah, you're Boy

597
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,760
Scouts, so you know how to tie a
knot and you know how to

598
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080
probably start a fire.
But I don't think they give

599
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,400
merit badges for hand to hand
combat with bigfoots.

600
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,600
I just don't think they do.
Maybe they do now.

601
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Maybe that's something in 2025
that the Boy Scouts are going to

602
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960
be discussing.
Don't know.

603
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,960
But you know what?
I this is breaking news because

604
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
I hadn't heard this news.
Actually this news hadn't

605
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
happened when I recorded the
first commentary for the first

606
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,840
story.
But since then this is new.

607
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Two men died like 2024.
Late 2024 died going out to find

608
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Bigfoot.
They went out on a Bigfoot

609
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,840
expedition.
They were ill prepared for the

610
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,080
weather and they died of
exposure.

611
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200
That's tragic.
So I'm just I'm, I'm saying this

612
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,080
because yes, Bigfoot is
fascinating.

613
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Yes, I love watching and reading
people looking into Bigfoot.

614
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Please, if you're going to go
out there and you're going to

615
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
look for any cryptids, Bigfoot
or otherwise, please make sure

616
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,800
that you are prepared.
Please don't go anywhere unless

617
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,120
you are prepared to be stranded.
Please go prepared.

618
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,720
Please, if you're going to be
doing any sort of Cryptid

619
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,480
hunting, just take care of
yourself.

620
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,320
Bring enough water, bring enough
if it's cold, you know, bring

621
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,320
enough warmth, bring enough
layers.

622
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Wear enough layers.
Be prepared to get lost out in

623
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,080
the heavily wooded areas.
Please just be safe out there.

624
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,360
And by the way, in Scamania
County, I'm not sure if I

625
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,840
pronounced that right.
Otherwise, Scamania scam mania.

626
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,040
That's a music festival,
probably.

627
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,880
So in the county where the two
men were found dead from

628
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,320
exposure, Apparently harming
Bigfoot is punishable by a $1000

629
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,960
fine and can also include jail
time, according to the county's

630
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Chamber of Commerce.
So if you do go hunting for

631
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Bigfoot, make sure it's not
literal hunting.

632
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,960
It's more of a more of an Easter
egg hunt sort of situation with

633
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,600
Bigfoot.
Please just be safe out there.

634
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,320
Thank you so much for joining me
for such a lovely spooky time.

635
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,040
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636
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,920
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637
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641
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642
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
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643
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,800
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644
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,520
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645
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646
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:36,760
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647
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648
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649
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650
00:46:49,960 --> 00:47:18,670
Until next time.
That's right, two true stories

651
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:20,390
of what?
Merry bleep.

652
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:21,030
Blip, Blip.
Blop.

653
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:21,390
Bloop.