Haunted Monastery in Italy | True Scary Ghost Stories | Ep #38

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On to our true strange story
here on Madam Strange Ways.

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I had a terrifying experience in
an old monastery dormitory in

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Italy.
What do you think happened by

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running chamomile?
I want to share something that

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completely changed my outlook on
the paranormal.

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A few years ago, I stayed in a
student dormitory in Italy that

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was part of an old monastery.
It was adjacent to a church, and

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while the building was old, my
room was cute and cozy.

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I had no issues with it until
something strange happened right

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before Christmas.
For two days, I felt terrified

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in a way I can't explain.
It wasn't just a mild feeling of

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unease, it was a deep gut
wrenching fear that made me feel

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like something was standing in
the corner of my room staring at

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me.
It wasn't something I could just

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brush off.
It was so strong that it made me

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physically uncomfortable, like I
couldn't breathe properly.

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I want to specify I wasn't
stressed out or having any other

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issues at the time.
I was actually having a great

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time in Italy, enjoying life as
a student.

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There was no reason for me to
feel this kind of fear, and that

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made it even worse.
It felt like it came out of

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nowhere and took over, making it
impossible to feel safe in my

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own room.
By the second night I tried to

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ignore it and told myself I was
being ridiculous.

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I thought if I just went to
sleep it would pass.

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But then I woke up in the middle
of the night to find my sweater

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was on the other side of the
room.

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The sweater which I always wore
to sleep because the heating was

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off at nights.
At first I tried to think of a

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reasonable explanation.
Maybe I took it off in my sleep

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without realizing it, but I
don't sleepwalk and I've never

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done anything like that before.
Plus it didn't make sense I was

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wearing it to stay warm because
the room was so cold and I

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definitely wouldn't have removed
it in the middle of the night.

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It just didn't add up.
Then that same night I saw a

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shadow move in the corner of my
eye.

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That was the final straw.
I completely lost it.

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I couldn't handle it anymore.
I ended up crying and running

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downstairs to the kitchen.
After that, everything returned

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to normal.
No more fear, no more strange

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feelings.
It was peaceful and calm again,

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just like before.
Nothing else happened for the

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rest of my stay.
The weirdest part, when I

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mentioned what happened at
dinner, one of the girls

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literally screamed and said she
had felt someone staring at her

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too.
I should also mention that the

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building was an old monastery.
Maybe that ties into some

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mysterious paranormal energy or
history in the place.

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I'm still not sure what
happened, but it definitely left

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me wondering if it was something
beyond just my imagination.

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Has anyone experienced something
like this before?

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Running chamomile or chamomile
if you're from the UK?

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Thank you so much for allowing
me to share your absolutely

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traumatizing tale.
I don't know if it's more or

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less traumatizing knowing that
you were not the only one who

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experienced something there on
your stay.

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It's like, OK, I'm not crazy or
am I?

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Is this a case of mass hysteria
or is there a ghost?

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Which one's worse?
I did some Googling it.

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There is no spittin.
I couldn't tell where this was

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in Italy.
And there were a lot of comments

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and some people were asking
like, was this Naples or like

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where in Italy specifically was
this?

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So I don't actually know the
city.

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So, you know, here's the thing,
if you go and you Google haunted

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monasteries in Italy, there's
actually quite a lot of them.

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Perhaps not shockingly, there's
a lot of them.

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I feel like maybe an Italian
monastery kind of just comes

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with ghosts.
Like I don't even know that they

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necessarily need to have an
origin story.

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I just feel like you build an
Italian monastery and it just

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automatically boop, here comes a
ghost.

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If you build it, they will come.
They being ghosts, monk ghosts,

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possibly.
So there's a whole lot of them.

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You can jump online, you can
Google them.

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Some of them are abandoned.
Some of them are very popular

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hotspots.
Sure, I'm sure.

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I'm sure, not sure exactly where
this one was, but there's a lot

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of them if you want to go read
about some stories.

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As far as you know me, I like to
talk about like what are some

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either folkloric or like
supernatural explanations for

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what happened versus mundane or
naturalistic explanations.

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So without actually knowing
where the monastery is, I can

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only go so far with regards to,
you know, local folklore or who.

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What kind of ghost is this?
Is it a ghost?

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Is it multiple ghosts?
Is it a monk ghost?

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Unclear.
I think we can assume that.

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I think this is a pretty cut and
dry case of a haunting with the

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shadow figures and the feeling
of dread and the oppressive

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feel, especially when you've got
monks around.

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I don't know.
Monks are creepy.

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They're creepy in the daytime.
They're creepy when they're

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alive.
They've got to be ultra creepy

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at night.
Alone in a in a monastery?

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In an ancient monastery.
Very scary.

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So I want to say upfront that
the subreddit that running

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Chamomile Chamomile posted this
and specifically has A tag where

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you can tag your post to request
that someone debunk the story.

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And for some of you, you may be
wondering why on earth would you

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want someone to debunk a ghost
story?

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That's the point of the ghost
story is that it's a ghost story

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and it's unexplained and that's
what makes it fun.

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Well, for someone experiencing
unexplained phenomenon that for

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someone experiencing it and it's
very scary, they want some other

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explanation other than it being
a ghost.

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Just like me.
I don't want it to be a ghost.

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You know, they just want it.
They want it to be debunked.

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They want someone to tell them
no, no, no, no, don't worry.

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It wasn't a ghost.
Nothing scary happened.

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This was all in your head and
everything's fine and you didn't

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actually see a ghost because
that is a very scary.

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That's very scary.
However, because this was tagged

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debunk this, I'm here.
I'm here for it.

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The Madam is in.
So my 2 pet theories for this

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case in terms of debunking are
carbon monoxide, which you may

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have assumed from the beginning
if you know me personally, and

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also low frequency sounds.
And I'm going to start with

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carbon monoxide.
So symptoms of carbon monoxide

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poisoning include such things as
a pressure on your chest,

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auditory and visual
hallucinations, and also kind of

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like an unexplained feeling of
dread.

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And of course, that's in
addition to headache, nausea.

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And then of course, if you've
exposed, if you've been exposed

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to it long enough, death, it's
not it's not good.

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So this is hey, PSA, strange
PSA, go check your carbon

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monoxide monitors.
What do you mean you don't have

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a carbon monoxide monitor?
If you live in a home in which

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there is any sort of gas
whatsoever or you have even if

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you have a fireplace, you know
what?

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I want you to go make sure that
you have a carbon monoxide

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detector.
You can get them pretty cheap,

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keep them around, test them
occasionally.

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And also while you're at it, go
ahead and check the batteries on

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your smoke alarms.
Make sure that those are

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working.
All right.

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So end strange PSA.
So carbon monoxide poisoning.

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This is something that you may
have heard of and if you

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haven't, this is so interesting.
There is a famous, I say famous

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and in the paranormal world,
there's a somewhat famous Reddit

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story about this guy who posts
and says, man, I live alone and

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I keep waking up to these post
it notes that are really weird

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and they have weird messages on
them when they're left around my

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house.
So it has to be my landlord.

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My landlord is obviously coming
into my house while I am asleep

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and leaving me these weird notes
and some other weird stuff that

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was going around in the house
and he was freaking out.

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Someone comes in.
This was years ago.

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Someone comes in and is like,
hey OP, I'm going to need you to

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check your carbon monoxide
levels.

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Go get a carbon monoxide
detector.

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Because like they gleaned from
like one of the photos or the

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description of a room that there
was poor ventilation.

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I don't know.
I mean it was a genius call.

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And this is before everybody was
screaming carbon monoxide.

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I think the reason everyone on
Reddit jumps to carbon monoxide

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now is because of this post.
It note story so interesting

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because spoiler alert, it was
carbon monoxide.

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So this guy, Oh my God, pause.
Not only was there, I just

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remembered not only were there
post it notes being left around

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the house that he thought
somewhat, but his landlord was

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leaving for him that were very
strange and cryptic.

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Not only that, he was like I set
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I set up a camera and attach it
to my computer to film to see if

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anyone was coming in and out of
the room and then out of the

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house.
And every time I check the

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camera, everything is deleted.
There's no, there's there's

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there's no record that I
recorded anything.

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Someone is coming in and
deleting the footage.

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Now he he was being slowly
poisoned by carbon monoxide and

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he was leaving himself these
weird post it notes and

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forgetting that he wrote them.
And come to find out the camera

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that he quote UN quote set up
wasn't even plugged in properly

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to the computer.
And when he was quote, UN quote

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checking on the recordings, he
was just like opening in a blank

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folder on his laptop that had
nothing to do with cameras.

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So that is how bad carbon
monoxide can affect you even at

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a low level like overtime.
So just to give you an idea, he

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was really paranoid.
He was forgetting that he was

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doing things.
Obviously running Chamomile was

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not exposed to this long enough
term, it seems like to have

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experienced memory loss.
But maybe, you know, who knows?

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Anyway, I just thought I would
tell you that crazy story.

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Also, while I'm on a little
tangent, really kind of one of

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the things that really set me
along this path that I am on

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that has led me here to you
right now in this moment is an

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episode of This American Life
called.

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And the call was coming from the
basement.

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It was a Halloween episode from
like a million years ago.

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And I found it one Halloween
when I was trying to find

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something spooky to listen to,
you know, and Oh my gosh, it

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was, it just completely changed
my worldview and really helped

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me break out of my, you know,
fear of demons, which I've

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mentioned in previous episodes.
OK, jumping back into this,

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carbon monoxide poisoning has
been kind of explained as the

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reason for a lot of hauntings,
especially going back into the

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Victorian age.
The Victorians had ghosts all

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over the place.
Everyone had ghosts in the

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Victorian age, right?
And that's because there were a

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lot of gasoline lamps and also
toxic wallpaper, which I feel

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like I need to do a little mini
episode about because what the

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heck.
Anyway, So we think that's part

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of why that happens.
But you may be asking, well, but

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how are you going to get carbon
monoxide in an old monastery

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that doesn't have heating?
Well, here are some theories

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that I have.
So just because the rooms

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weren't heated doesn't mean that
there weren't water heaters or

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boilers.
And especially if there were

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installed, especially in the
kitchen, if you think about it,

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even if these were installed
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would have been retrofitted.
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ancient buildings and then you
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they're probably not done like,
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And even more so do you, how
often, let me ask you this.

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How often do you think that a
boiler or a water heater in an

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old ancient Italian monastery is
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How often do you think that's
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Realistically?
Probably not very often, OK, I

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don't think that's, I don't
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OK, Anyway, they may also have,
especially in the kitchen, wood

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burning stove, wood burning.
How did I say that?

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Wood burning stoves or
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OK.
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if they're not even necessarily
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buildings, if they have like
inactive chimneys even or

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blocked flus, I mean, who
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Who among us doesn't have a
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You know that what that turns
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basically.
Like if the flu is blocked, it's

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not allowing carbon monoxide to
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So that's kind of trapping it
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And then of course, if there's
improper ventilation, which I am

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sure that there is in this
monastery, which was not built

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around trying to prevent carbon
monoxide poisoning, just wasn't

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something they were worried
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So then on top of that, even if
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this in their room, if someone
else anywhere nearby did have a

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kerosene or a gas heater, then I
mean, baby, you got a Stew

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going.
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airflow, which we just said
there's probably not, then that

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could definitely affect any one
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the monastery.
And we did know that it wasn't

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just running chamomile that
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At least one other person in the
group also experienced feeling

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like they were being watched.
So kind of feels like an area of

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effect sort of situation with
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Just a thought.
OK, so that is kind of what I'm

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thinking for carbon monoxide.
I don't know.

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Tell me what you think
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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How likely do you think that is?
And then we will now move into

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low frequency sounds.
So Victoria Tandy, this British

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engineer and also member of the
psychical Nope, the Society for

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Psychical Research.
Why did I say that?

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So weird.
We're just going to keep moving

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anyway.
Which you may have remember

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having popped up in the Enfield
Poltergeist episode, which if

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you have not listened to, please
go back and listen to the

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Enfield Poltergeist episode for
more about the for more about

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the Society for Psychical
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Why is that so difficult?
Anyway, Victoria Tandy, this

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engineer, had a ghostly
experience in his work lab.

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He saw a ghost.
He felt this oppressive air of

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dread and fear and he was like,
what is going on?

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I'm a scientist, let's figure
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And so he did.
He discovered that there was a

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low frequency sound in, out
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What is going on guys?
Sometimes words are hard.

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I don't know what to say.
Vic Tandy discovered that there

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was this low frequency inaudible
sound that was happening in the

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lab because of a fan that was
installed that was around 18.9

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Hertz.
And it was causing him to have

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shadowy hallucinations of ghosts
and an overwhelming feeling of

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dread.
Is that not just wild?

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OK, so running Chamomile
probably didn't have a fan going

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in their room, right?
It's the winter, first of all.

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But if there was a bell tower at
this monastery that could

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actually produce low frequency
like inaudible rumbling because

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if you think of a bell tower,
what is it?

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It's just like a it's just like
a wind tunnel.

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It's just like a vertical wind
tunnel, right?

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So that could be creating some
sort of vibration that is going

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through the monastery.
And then also church organs.

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If there's a church next door,
there is in the story, it might

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even be connected to the
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And if that's the case, church
organs again, now you've got a

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bunch of a bunch of smaller wind
tunnels that are all connected.

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And the whole point of the whole
point of an organ is for air to

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move through it.
So even if it's not being

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played, something could be
happening there, like some sort

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of some sort of distortion, some
sort of rumbling with with wind.

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Because also, even though
there's not a lot of ventilation

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going on in the monastery, I'm
sure it's also not very well

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insulated against wind.
Oh, and while I was doing this

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research, I found this research
paper on ResearchGate.

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Here's the thing.
ResearchGate needs to call

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itself ResearchGate Keeping
because it would not let me make

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an account as a just a a rando
if I don't have an association

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with some sort of research
institution.

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So what the heck is that?
It even allows me to select oh

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I'm just like a person of the
public just having having fun

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looking up research papers.
It allows me to select that but

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then it just times out and I
should really just e-mail one of

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the writers of the paper and I
bet they would e-mail me the PDF

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Anyway.
I wanted to read this to include

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this in the episode but I
couldn't get to it because I was

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being I was being gate kept away
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So the paper was called Using
low frequency sound to create

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non contact sensations on and in
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I'm going to read that again,
Using low frequency sound to

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create non contact sensations on
and in the body, which I assume

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means.
That they experiment with using

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low frequency sound to make
people feel as if they are being

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touched.
Is that not so scary?

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I can't wait to read it.
I don't know how it's going to

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turn out.
I'm going to e-mail one of the

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authors of the paper, maybe all
three of them if they don't

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respond to me.
But I want to read this paper

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and I want to share what I find
with you guys, so I'll keep you

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updated anyway.
What do you think caused the

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spooky happenings behind the
story?

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Do you think it was carbon
monoxide poisoning?

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Do you think it was low
frequency sounds?

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Do you think it was a little of
column A and a little and a

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little of column B?
Or do you think it was the ghost

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of a monk?
In terms of debunking, I know

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since the original author
running Chamomile wanted it to

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be debunked, I would also love
to hear other theories about

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debunking so that we can give
them some Peace of Mind about

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what happened to them.
And if you have a spooky story

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that you want read on the show
and if you want me to debunk it,

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I would be happy to.
But if you would also not like

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me to debunk it and you would
like me to be very respectful of

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what happened to you, I can do
that too.

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Just be sure to e-mail me at
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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Thank you for joining me for
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afraid and not be in danger.
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I mean, come on.

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Was that not?
Was that not clear?

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ominously.