Perseid Meteor Shower | True Spooky Stories of the Strange & Unusual | Ep #31

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What do you swear you saw but
don't have any proof of by

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anonymous 1 summer when I was 15
I asked for permission to stay

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up later than normal.
It was mid August and the per SE

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meteor shower was supposed to
happen.

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It was pretty much the end of
summer vacation and I didn't

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have anything to do the next
day, so I asked my mom if I

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could stay up until 2:00 or 3:00
AM when the meteor shower would

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be visible.
We lived in a subdivision in

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Northern Colorado that was still
under construction, so it was

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fairly dark.
Mainly only our street and

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another nearby had many houses
on it.

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I was killing time until the
meteor shower, playing Enter the

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Matrix and Legend of Zelda Wind
Waker on GameCube.

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That's how I know I was awake
and hadn't fallen asleep and

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dreamed the experience.
I was actively doing something

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the whole time.
I distinctly remember it getting

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close to the time saving my
game, turning off the TV and the

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light.
I opened the blinds covering my

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bedroom window and sat on the
floor, hoping it would be dark

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enough to see some cool meteors.
I'd always been a space geek, so

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I was pretty excited.
I look out the window across the

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street and one house down I
notice a brightly glowing

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humanoid figure of blue white
shimmering light floating in a

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standing position just above the
roof.

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As soon as it registers and I
think to myself, what the fuck

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is that?
It felt like it noticed me

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noticing it.
It turned quickly and stared at

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me for a minute.
The thing didn't have a face,

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but you know that feeling when
you make eye contact with

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something?
After the flash of that feeling,

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I recall having the sudden
mental or physical sensation

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that I can only describe as
something scratching the inside

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of your brain like it was going
through my thoughts, followed by

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the emotional experience of an
extreme, menacing overtone of

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fear.
It suddenly starts floating down

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off the roof at an angle to that
neighbor's yard.

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Then it starts to float across
the yard and to the street.

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About the time when it had made
it halfway across the street, I

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overcame the paralysis of fear,
slammed the blinds shut and dove

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under the covers of my bed,
where I stayed praying for the

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next few hours until I fell
asleep.

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Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.

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No thank you, no thank you,
thank you, but no thank you.

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But thank you to Anonymous for
allowing me to Share your story.

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I'm sorry that you experienced
this.

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That sounds terrifying.
And if anyone listening has

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experienced anything like this
or you have just spent a night

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hiding under your covers,
cowering and terrified of

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something that you feel like is
coming to get you.

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I'm sorry.
That sucks.

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That's it's not fun.
But before we get into the

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possibility of what was that?
Because what was that?

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And before we dive deeper into
the Perseid meteor shower,

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here's a little something that I
like to tell my friends when

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they come to me with a spooky
experience because they kind of

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want comfort.
They want to know that they're

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not crazy.
They want me to tell them that

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whatever happened like was not a
ghost.

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And I'm happy to do that.
Because if, if this is your

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first time listening to the
show, what I like to do is

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remind everyone that they can
feel afraid and not be in

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danger.
So you can listen to these

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stories.
You can get afraid.

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You can also just be cowering
under your sheets and you can

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feel afraid while also not being
in danger.

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So what I like to tell my
friends when they come to me

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with a spooky experience is
here.

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And here it is in a nutshell.
If you have a scary experience

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at night near bedtime, and your
reaction is to hide under your

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covers and just, like, close
your eyes really tightly and,

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you know, quietly, silently
panic while your heart is

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pounding in your chest and
you're just thinking, please, go

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away.
I just want to open my eyes and

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it's going to be morning and
everything's going to be fine

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and I'm going to be safe.
Then it was probably just your

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brain messing with you, not
maliciously, not on purpose, but

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it just kind of does that
sometimes.

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So if you just, if you're hiding
and you're scared at night and

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you're like, what was that?
What did they experience?

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Or, you know, maybe it's not
even something supernatural.

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Because for me, I know a lot of
the reasons that I have stayed

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hidden under my covers in the
past hoping for daylight, is

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that I have tried to convince
myself or successfully convinced

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myself that someone has broken
into the house and they are in

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my home.
And yet my reaction is to hide

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under the covers.
OK, well, that doesn't really

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make a lot of sense.
So OK, I'm not saying I'm not

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saying that people's reaction to
immediate danger always does

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make sense.
Like, for instance, in addition

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to fight or flight, there's also
freeze, which one could

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successfully argue hiding under
the covers is freezing.

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OK, you've got me there.
However, I think as a general

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blanket rule that just happened,
I'm very pleased with myself.

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As a general blanket rule, if
you're hiding under your

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blankets as a reaction to
something scaring you in the

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middle of the night, it's
probably not anything.

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You probably aren't actually in
danger, even though you feel

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like you are.
So if that helps you, if that

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helps anyone in the future time,
I really hope it does.

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I hope it helps you because
that's now what I tell myself

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when I get scared in the middle
of the night and I'm cowering

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under my covers.
I just kind of wanted to touch

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on really quickly that I kind of
feel like I kind of thought is

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this like an alien story because
I'm trying to collect several

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alien or UAP or UFO stories for
like an alien Palooza episode.

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But then I was like, well, do I
only think it's an alien because

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the story happened during the
Per SE meteor shower and so

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there's like space on the mind?
Because if this happened

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anywhere else, I wouldn't have
considered it an alien story.

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So I want to hear what you
think.

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You can either leave a comment
on Spotify or you can send me an

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e-mail
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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Let me know, do you think this
is an alien story or a UAP

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situation or NHI which put a pin
in that?

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We'll go back to that later.
NHI means non human

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intelligence.
Listen, we'll get back to you in

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a second.
OK?

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So what was that humanoid
glowing shape that that

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Anonymous saw on a roof at
night?

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Actually my favorite part is
when it's sensed Anonymous

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watching it and then it snapped
its head around to look right at

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Anonymous.
It reminds me of Lilo and Stitch

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when the aliens are like using
the heat vision goggles to find

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Stitch and they're whispering
and then it stitch hears them

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and stitches head just like
whips around really quickly.

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That's where they were.
That's what I was picturing.

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Maybe that's also why I was
thinking this was an alien story

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is because Lilo and Stitch
stitches an alien.

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I don't know, maybe.
So is this like the opposite of

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shadow people?
You know, shadow people, they're

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dark, they're made of shadow,
hence the name.

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And they lurk at like the
periphery of our vision, right?

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Because like, you just see them
right at the edges of your

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vision, just you, you look and
they're gone.

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But then they're still, they're
just lurking just outside of

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your, your realm of vision.
But then this being of light is

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like, boom, it's just like right
there in your face, glowing,

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noticing you, noticing it,
watching you watching me.

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Sweet, right.
OK, I'm not going to get into

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it.
We're going to.

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We're just going to keep going.
I'm trying to keep this episode

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tight because that was a short
story, so I'm trying not to

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spend half an hour talking about
it, but I am OK, OK, we're

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moving forward.
So what I thought was actually

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incredibly creepy about this
story is that like typically we

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don't imagine spirits or
entities or anything that's

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unexplained.
We don't typically imagine, say,

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a humanoid glowing shape as
being able to just explore the

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world.
Like it's a sandbox game.

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Like, you know, like if you're
picturing a ghost, it's like

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it's in your home or it's in a,
OK, it's maybe it's not in your

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home.
It's in a haunted house.

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It's in a haunted place and it's
kind of stuck there, you know,

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like the the stone tape theory,
which is basically that if

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something has happened enough
times over the course of a

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period of time, it's kind of
just like stuck there in in time

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and it's repeating.
And that kind of explains why we

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see ghosts kind of doing
repetitive behaviors.

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But this figure is just kind of
out there doing.

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It's on a roof.
It's on a roof.

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Who does that?
What is it a raccoon?

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Like what are you?
What are you doing?

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Get down.
I mean, I guess it did get down,

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but then it was stalking
Anonymous and it was going to go

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into their room presumably.
I mean, to me that's the next

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logical place is that if it sees
Anonymous watching it and then

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it gets down off the roof and
starts crossing the street

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towards Anonymous's house, 1 I
think would have to assume that

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it's it's coming after
Anonymous, right?

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But then why did it give up?
Like why did Anonymous hiding

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under the covers make it just
give up?

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You know?
Is it like, Oh no by weakness

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like a Pokémon comforter?
Like why did that stop it?

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I was seeing a Pokémon comforter
because this happened in like I

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would have to assume like 2003
based on the GameCube games that

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were being played.
Which by the way, a commenter in

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the thread on R slash high
strangeness said, hey, I worked

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on that game.
Enter the matrix.

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I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I thought that was so

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interesting.
Like, oh, what are the odds?

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But of course, someone, a game
person who worked on a Matrix

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video game for GameCube.
I feel like that tracks that

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they're in R slash high
strangeness.

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OK, that's fair.
But seriously, why did he give

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up?
Like is it back to what I was

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saying before?
Like if your reaction is to just

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hide under the covers, then
probably you're not in actual

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danger.
Or is it because is it like, is

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it like the, what is it Boo in
Mario in the Mario games?

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Or like when you're looking at
the ghost, it doesn't come

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toward you, but when you turn
your back, it comes closer.

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Maybe it's the opposite.
Or like when you're watching the

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ghost, it can move toward you
and when you turn your back and

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you stop looking at it, it stops
coming towards you.

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Something to think about,
something to think about.

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So with the light versus dark,
you know, to say nothing of how

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culturally the West sees white
as pure and dark as evil.

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Clearly this particular light
being proves the exception

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because it terrified Anonymous.
I also wanted to see if I could

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figure out how prevalent this
sort of sighting was there just

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any weird sighting?
Any weird unexplained sightings

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were specifically during like
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happenings?
There's probably a term for

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that.
I don't know what it is.

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I wanted to see like, how common
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And I did find several stories
about glowing figures,

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especially humanoid figures, but
they weren't tied to, or at

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least it wasn't mentioned that
they were tied to any sort of

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meteor showers, especially not
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which happens every year, which
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So I couldn't find any increased
instances of glowing figure

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sightings during meteor showers,
Per SE D See, you get it.

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That's good, right?
But you know what?

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I'm not discounting it.
It's possible.

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It's possible that every single
glowing figure sighting that I

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read about actually did happen
around mid August of whatever

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year it happened in.
Possible, probable TBD.

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So to get into some more
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explanations as to what could
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got parasomnia, kind of
otherwise known as night

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terrors.
I mean, they're not the same

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thing.
Night terrors are a form of

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parasomnia.
But parasomnia, you know, could

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also just be sleepwalking, sleep
talking, but it's where you kind

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of seem like you're awake but
you're actually dreaming.

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They typically don't remember
the night terror episode,

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though.
And obviously this one has stuck

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with Anonymous ever since.
So, but there is sleep

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deprivation, which can lead to
hallucinations.

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And if you are a listener of the
show, you know, I love talking

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about hallucinations,
specifically how common they are

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and how most people walking
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don't understand how often they
actually are hallucinating when

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something is just happening and
they can't explain it.

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So for instance, if you're you
feel your cell phone buzzing in

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your pocket, but it's not in
your pocket, actually it's in

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the other room, that's a type of
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Or if you're ever falling asleep
and you hear someone say your

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name or say something and it
sounds like it's kind of like

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right in your ear and it's
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Actually, that is an auditory
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type of hypnagogic or
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depending on if you were falling
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Still scary, but definitely
hallucination.

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And let me tell you, what will
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than usual is sleep deprivation.
You don't need to go several

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days without sleeping in order
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You can just get only a few
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that's considered severe sleep
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I think we just really
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sleep that we actually need in
order to be mentally well and

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healthy.
And so if you only got a handful

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of hours of sleep one night,
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because kids and teenagers need
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mean, baby, you got yourself a
Stew going.

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So if I had to explain this with
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would put my money on sleep
deprivation because guess what?

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It's like mid August.
You're a teenager, right?

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Like you're getting as little
sleep as possible because it's

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summer break.
You're trying very hard to

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squeeze every last drop of time
from your summer vacation and

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there's video games to be
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Obviously, you're staying up way
later than usual because in

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order to view the proceeds, it
kind of needs to be closer to

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sunrise.
So that's pretty late.

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days leading up to it because
it's summer break and you're a

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teenager.
I mean, you see where I'm going

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with this, right?
So listen, I am not saying

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Anonymous did not see something.
I definitely believe that they

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did.
But if I had to give a mundane,

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like a safe, comforting mundane
explanation that is not

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terrifying, I would put my money
on sleep deprivation.

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But when it comes to the
supernatural explanation, OK,

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we've got options here.
So obviously we just have like a

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ghost, just like an OG ghost.
There's also angels or divine

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messengers.
There's high vibration energy

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manifestations.
Question mark.

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That's the thing I know the
least about.

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But I do know that it's tied to
something called NHI, otherwise

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known as non human intelligence.
Now, OK, if if you're not

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familiar with the term NHI, it's
kind of on a spectrum.

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OK, So if you're really into UA
PS, which is basically UF OS

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rebranded, then NHI is basically
also a rebranding of aliens.

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So instead of saying aliens, you
just say NHI.

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It's kind of got, it's got less
of a stigma and it sounds

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official because it's an
acronym, right?

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But it's also kind of like, I
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calling it Nhis instead of
aliens, they're also kind of

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making the argument that like,
well, NHI may have been on Earth

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since before us or they're like
in other alternative dimensions.

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But those dimensions are, they
exist in a way the human brains

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can't comprehend, kind of like
the way that shrimps can see

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colors that we can't comprehend.
I'm drawing that conclusion

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completely on my own.
I don't know if that's, I don't

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know if that's a good
comparison, but NHI, if you're

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on the side of the spectrum of
you really like Uaps, then NHI

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is more or less aliens.
OK, I'm not trying to be

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reductive, I'm just trying to
quickly explain NHI.

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However, if you are up more on
the woo woo side of the

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spectrum.
Like you prefer to listen to

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Stevie Nicks while you also do
meditation and you're into Reiki

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and et cetera.
Then you when you say NHI, you

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probably mean a rebranding of
spirit, like with a capital S or

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light beings, you know,
etcetera.

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So it just kind of depends on
where you fall in that spectrum.

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That's kind of what NHI means.
So it could be aliens or it

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could just be some sort of,
again, non human intelligence

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that probably we don't fully
understand.

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So, you know, yeah, could that
being have been some sort of

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NHI?
Sure, because I don't know all

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the NHI rules.
I don't think there are rules.

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I think that's kind of part of
being an NHI is that you don't

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have to adhere to rules or like
physics or like gravity, you

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know, you're, you're like on a
different plane.

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So I don't know those rules for
sure.

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It's possible that this could be
an NHI.

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I've also seen that there are
some theories that when you're

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talking about comments, which
we're going to get into the

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comments in a second, but there
is a theory that aliens, so

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we're on, you know, so we're,
we're on the, we're on the,

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we're on the alien side, the UAP
side of the NHI spectrum right

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now.
So there is a theory that alien

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bases exist on comets and
they're like hidden.

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So we can't see them when the
comets come by.

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And also, by the way, some of
these comets only come around

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every say, you know, 100 plus
years or more.

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So we don't have a lot of chance
to check it out.

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So some people say that there
are alien bases that are hiding

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on these comments.
So they're basically like

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hitching a ride on these comets
and they're able to just like

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fly around the solar system
without having to use any sort

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of energy.
And it's very efficient and

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sneaky.
So maybe that glowing creature,

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the figure, maybe that was an
alien, an NHI alien from

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whatever alien base is on that
comet.

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Except, oh, no, I did a lot of
research into the Perseid meteor

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shower and the comet that it
came from, and that's not going

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to work.
Unless the only way that this

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would have worked for the
Perseid meteor shower is if this

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was 1992, which is the last time
that the comet that caused the

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meteors for the Perseid meteor
shower came around Earth.

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All right, OK, now it's now.
It's comet time.

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It's meteor time, so the Perseid
meteor shower, it peaks in mid

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August and it's the best meteor
shower of the year.

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It's got a ton of meteors per
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What like 50 to 100, which seems
like quite a lot of meteors

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considering I typically see 0
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So that seems like a lot.
That's in mid August.

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Check it out every year.
It's kind of shifts around, but

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generally it peaks mid August.
So if it's called the Perseid

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meteor shower, why was I talking
about comets?

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What's the difference between
comets and and meteors, you may

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be wondering?
So comets, they leave a dusty

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trail of debris in their wake.
And then we pass through this

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trail of debris every year,
which causes meteors.

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Yay.
Here's the thing that I didn't

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know.
Most of the meteors that we see

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are the size of grains of sand
and like the biggest that they

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are is like a marble.
Is that crazy?

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Like, that's crazy.
They're so small and they make

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such a big impact.
I feel like there's some sort of

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positive message there.
I don't know, think on it.

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Let me know
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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Now, the Per SE meteor shower
specifically comes from the

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trail of the comet called the
Swift Tuttle comet.

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Now the thing about comets that
I learned in a Regency romance

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novel, it might be Victorian.
I need to double check.

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Anyway, the thing that I read
about in a romance novel and

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have not verified so check
meifimwrongmadamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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The thing about discovering
comments is the first person who

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discovers the comet and actually
proves that they discovered it,

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That's who it's named after.
So Swift hyphen Tuttle being the

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name of the comet, that's either
one person with two last names

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or two different people.
And in fact, in this case it is

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two different people because
Louis Swift on July 16th, 1862

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discovered it and then just
three days later, without

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realizing Louis Swift had done
that, Horace Parnell Tuttle on

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the 19th of July in 1862 also
discovered it.

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So they were both independently
verifying it at the same time.

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So I guess they shared it.
I don't know, actually, I should

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delve deeper into that because,
oh, that does sound like kind of

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like a juicy story.
Like, were they arguing?

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Were they fighting?
Did they agree?

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Did they not want to share the
comment?

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I have so many questions and I
want to pause and Google it and

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then come back and tell you.
But I specifically said I didn't

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want to talk about this for 30
minutes.

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I mean, I do want to, I do want
to talk about this for 30

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minutes.
The problem is I don't know that

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everyone wants me to.
So I was trying to be succinct,

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which is something that I'm
struggling with, as you can see,

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because we are almost at 30
minutes and I'm not done.

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So you know what, you know what
this, I'm doing this for you.

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I'm doing this for y'all because
I thought this was so

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interesting.
So here we go.

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I'm going to just move on.
We're going to just keep going.

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So in the discovery of this
comet in 1862, it was as bright

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as Polaris.
So really, how hard could it

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have been to discover it
usually?

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Again, according to this romance
novel that I read, comments just

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look like smudgy things in the
sky.

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So for this comet to be as
bright as the North Star, I feel

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like maybe more people should
have tried to discover this at

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the exact same time.
Like I feel like instead of just

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being Swift Tuttle, there should
be like 6 names hyphenated, you

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know?
OK, so however, after it was, it

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was actually discovered in 1862,
just three years later.

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Giovanni's Schiaparelli in 1865
identified the comet as the

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source of the pursades.
So for reference, by the way,

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because I always find this
really interesting when I'm

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listening to history stuff, I
like to know what else is going

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on in history when that happened
because 1865 doesn't mean too

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much to me, just on its face.
So for reference, in 1865 when

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they're discovering this comet
and they're then discovering

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that the comet is the source of
the pursades, 1865, the American

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Civil War came to an end.
Also, President Lincoln

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assassinated and the 13th
Amendment was ratified in the US

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abolishing slavery.
Wow, wild.

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Crazy that those things were all
happening at the same time.

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Hold on.
When was?

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Oh, no.
Oh no.

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When?
What month was President Lincoln

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assassinated?
Because here's the thing.

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Here's the thing about meteors
is that ancient civilizations

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consider them to be portentous,
like a portent of probably doom.

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Sometimes good things, though,
because Julius Caesar.

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OK, No, stop.
See, I got to stop.

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I This is a problem.
I have a problem.

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I hope that you enjoy the
problem I have, because I can't

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stop.
I can't stop it.

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00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,840
But you know what?
Let's pause.

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Let's pause.
Let's Google.

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00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,200
Let's Fact Check.
OK, maybe some of you knew this

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off the top of your head, but I
didn't.

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Unfortunately, Abraham Lincoln
was assassinated in April, which

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is very far from August, so it
is probably not pretentious.

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You know what, though?
I mean, who's to say?

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Who's to say that the annual per
SE meteor shower, OK, now that

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all right, you know, now that
I'm saying that out loud, that

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if the meteor shower is yearly
and it's always in August, is it

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not then always an omen for
anything bad that happens around

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August or September or October?
I mean, how far do you go?

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Like if, if you see what I'm
saying, how far?

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00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Like is it within 30 days?
Like you see a meteor and then

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30 days later something bad
happens.

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Was it the meteor to warning
you?

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600
But like what if it's like 11
months later?

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Was it the meteor that you saw
eleven months earlier?

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00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Like what is the what would you
say?

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00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,800
The statute of limitations is on
omens.

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00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200
What would you say?
E-mail me

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.
Let me know what you think.

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However, harkening back to
ancient Egypt, where they didn't

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know what we know now, they
definitely thought everything,

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you know, everything that could
be an omen was an omen.

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And so the Roman historian
Cassius Dio referred to quote UN

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quote comet stars occurring in
August of 30 BC.

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Now what was happening in 30 BC,
you may be wondering?

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00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Well, Cleopatra, not to be
confused with my Cleopatra,

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00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Cleopatra took her own life
rather than be humiliated and

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subjected to Octavian's will
after their defeat of Cleopatra

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and Mark Antony.
So that either happened August

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10th or 12th or 13th.
I'm not sure why nowhere says

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11th.
Kind of weird that it's just

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Anyway, so that happened
directly in the middle of the

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peak of the Perseid meteor
shower.

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00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,760
So the comet itself, the Swift
Tuttle comet, orbits our sun

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every 133 years.
It was last here 1992.

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00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,680
So that means can you do math
quickly in your head?

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Because I can't. 2120620126 is
when it'll be back in this part

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of the woods.
Crazy.

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00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,360
So the size of this comet, that
is the reason the meteor shower

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happened, that Anonymous was
staying up late in order to

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00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000
watch.
Just a reminder.

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That's why we're talking about
this.

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00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,720
I'm just reminding myself This
is why we're talking about it.

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Of that comet, the swift total
comet, the nucleus of this comet

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00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:08,320
is 16 miles across, which may
not sound that big in terms of,

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,000
you know, picturing A celestial
object.

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00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,440
However, 16 miles or 26
kilometers 16 miles is nearly

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00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,800
twice the size of the object
believed to have caused the

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00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,840
dinosaur extinction.
OK.

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00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,760
So if that gives you any context
as to the size and with a

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relative velocity of 60
kilometers a second, or for our

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00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:44,320
American listeners, 37 miles a
second or 2220 miles an hour, an

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00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Earth impact would have an
estimated energy of about 27

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00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,640
times that of the Cretaceous
Paleogene impactor, which is

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what killed the dinosaurs.
And you may already be thinking

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00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120
this.
However, it is widely described

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00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,360
as the single most dangerous
object known to humanity.

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,560
There's a joke here.
There's a joke here and I'm mad

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00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,640
that I'm not thinking of it.
If I was a a comedian in the

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00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,760
90s, maybe that would be like
that.

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00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,600
The single most dangerous object
known to humanity.

520
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,400
I guess you haven't met my
ex-wife.

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00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,640
I guess you haven't met my
mother-in-law.

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00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Something.
There's something there.

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:37,240
OK, so this comet that causes
the per SE meteor shower that

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Anonymous was watching the night
that this happened.

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Let's all remember, it's been so
long now since I told the story.

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00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,040
It's been 50 years.
Listen, the fact that it's

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00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,280
called that the comet is called
the single most dangerous object

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00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,960
known to humanity and the fact
that historically celestial

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,760
objects doing weird stuff in the
sky is kind of like a, an omen

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00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,360
or a portent, especially of
doom.

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00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,080
I mean, is there something there
with that figure?

532
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,960
Is there something there with
that glowing figure?

533
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Is it, you know, just is
stopping by because Earth's not

534
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,880
going to be around that much
longer?

535
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Well, I mean, we know it's going
to be around until at least 2120

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,760
seconds.
Well, we don't know that.

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00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,920
OK, from the from the
perspective of the Swift Tuttle

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00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,280
comet, yes, it probably won't
kill us until 2126.

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00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,080
There's so many other things
that can happen.

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00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520
But assuming that nothing else
happens, obviously the comet's

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080
not going to destroy us until
2126 still.

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00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,000
I mean, if you think about it
from the standpoint of, you

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00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,600
know, like an alien or an NHI, I
mean, that's not that long.

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00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,920
That's not that long.
That's like 100 years, 101

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00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,040
years.
That's not that long.

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,240
So, you know, maybe it's just
stopping by to get a glimpse of

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00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,600
us while it can because it knows
what's going to go down.

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00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,679
It knows we're going to yell
temper.

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00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,199
It knows we're going to move.
It knows we're going to dance or

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00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,080
that we're going to stop moving
and stop dancing because the

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,719
comet potentially will collide
with us.

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,639
And I mean, all of us listening
are probably not going to be

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00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,639
around anyway.
So, you know, I guess we'll

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00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,199
never know.
We may never know.

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00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,840
But I do wonder if there's
something there in terms of how

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00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,239
dangerous that comet is.
You know, like, is there just

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00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,360
like bad vibes ingrained in the
debris, you know, even though

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00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480
it's only the size of sand and
rice?

559
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,159
Is it just negative bad vibes,
you know, and that debris and

560
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,679
every time we orbit through
those bad vibes, there's some

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00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,000
kind of energy transference.
You know, I don't know.

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00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,120
I can't.
Here's the thing, some things

563
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,840
are mysterious and we'll never
know what happened.

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00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,200
This is one of those cases.
That's what makes these stories

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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,560
unexplained is that no matter
who you ask, they may have a

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00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,600
theory, but they do not know
with 100% certainty.

567
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,120
So if anyone ever tells you when
you share a scary story with

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00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,560
them or you share an unexplained
story with them and they tell

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00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,000
you with 100% certainty what
they think it is, they don't

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
know.
We'll never know.

571
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,200
We may never know.
And that's awful.

572
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680
And I hate not knowing.
And it's actually one of my

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00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,800
least favorite things.
It's not knowing things, but

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00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,120
it's also a little bit freeing,
you know, to know that we may

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00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,480
never know.
Now if you have seen any sort of

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00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,880
glowing figure or you know, even
if you've had some sort of, I

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00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:56,920
don't know, NHI or UAP or alien
adjacent experience, I would

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00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,760
love to hear from you
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

579
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,400
Or you can visit
madamstrangeways.com.

580
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,240
All right, I told you that I
wasn't going to talk about this

581
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,000
for 30 minutes, and then I just
did that.

582
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,160
So, you know, I'm a liar.
I don't know what to tell you.

583
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,000
I don't know what to tell you.
You can't.

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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,560
There's, there's.
Listen, there's no way you

585
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,360
believed me when I said that.
So is it really a surprise?

586
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Probably not.
Anyway, thank you so much for

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,720
listening.
And thank you again to Anonymous

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00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:29,280
for allowing me to Share your
story.

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00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,880
Thank you for joining me for
more true, strange stories of

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00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,000
the unexplained.
Remember that you can feel

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00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,880
afraid and not be in danger.
You're safe here with me,

592
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,560
probably.
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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,720
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It would mean the world to me.

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00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,840
The underworld, obviously.
I mean, come on.

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00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,040
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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,320
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00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,080
See you soon, she said
ominously.

604
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:03,490
However, back in ancient Egypt,
when did I say ancient Egypt?

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00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:07,610
That's cool.
It's wrong.