Satanic Cult + The Orange Hoodie Man | True Scary Unexplained Stories | Ep #25

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the Twilight Zone, and smack dab

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the middle of the strange and
unusual.

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Today I have two new true
strange stories for you.

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usually not, I share my thoughts

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guided sleep meditation,
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truly, where I will lull you to
sleep with my dulcet tones.

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And there's definitely not any
sort of subconscious subliminal

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messaging.
Definitely not.

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That would be weird.
Anyway, on to the strange

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stories here on Madam Strange
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story #1 by Onomatopoeia Utopia.
I graduated high school in 1998

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and was dating a girl with all
kinds of issues who I should not

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have been seeing.
My mother said if I stayed in a

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relationship with her, I could
not live at home.

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We lived in a small rural town
and my girlfriend's home was

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several miles away.
I decided to live in my car,

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Smart my no.
While I figured things out.

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I would park my car at the gate
entrance to a field near her

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home and sleep there at night
walking through some woods and

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across the field.
When I left her house, her two

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dogs would follow me to the car
and then go back home after I

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was inside.
Not far into my new setup.

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One night as I approached my
car, I swear I heard the beat of

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drums.
Not drum set drumming, but like

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tribal sounding drums.
It was somewhat faint, but it

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was distinct in the silence of
the rural area.

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It was then I recalled the
stories I had heard in

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elementary school of a
supposedly satanic cult in the

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area.
They had some land at the end of

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a dead end road about a mile
north of where I was parked.

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I became instantly scared and
climbed into my car quickly.

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The back seat would fold down
and I could fit halfway into the

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trunk of the car.
That's how I slept for the

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several weeks I lived there.
Every night I could hear the

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drums.
One night the dogs didn't leave

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my car.
Rather, I awoke to them growling

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at something bumping the
underside of my vehicle as they

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moved around beneath me.
The final straw came one night

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after getting into my car.
As I sat in the driver's seat

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preparing to climb into the
back, I happened to make out a

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silhouette against the horizon
in the field I had just crossed.

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It was a human form made of
shadow, silhouetted against the

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less dark night sky.
Thinking my girlfriend or her

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father, who didn't know I was
out there, followed me, I turned

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on my headlights to verify who
and discovered that nobody stood

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in the field.
I had enough of that and drove

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about 10 miles away to the
parking lot of a rural church

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and felt better sleeping there.
Needless to say, that

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relationship did not last and I
moved on to other things not

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long after that.
Almost a year later, I became

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friends with an older lady who
lived nearby.

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I found out she happened to live
on the Dead End Road, where I

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swore I heard the drum sounds
coming from.

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I asked her one time if she ever
had any strange experiences or

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any harassment from the colt at
the end of the road.

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She told me that the colt had
been gone for about a decade at

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that time and they had left
before her family even moved

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onto the street.
But she did have odd things

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happening there.
After first moving in, she said

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that her three daughters would
routinely see shadowy figures

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moving outside between the trees
on their property and also hear

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what she called Indian drums.
She said this having no idea

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what had happened to me.
Once, she said her youngest

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daughter, four years old at the
time, was sitting by the stereo

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speakers in the living room with
her ear up to them.

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Someone in the family asked her
what she was doing and she said

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listening.
They found it somewhat humorous

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because the stereo wasn't on and
asked her what she was listening

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to.
The young daughter looked at

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them and replied, They say there
is justification in killing your

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parents.
I knew then that what I

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experienced almost a year before
was not the cult that had long

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ago moved away, but something
far sinister that had remained

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in the area.
Onomatopoeia.

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Utopia.
Wow, what a name.

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First of all, so many vowels.
Very vowly.

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But second of all, ladies,
ladies.

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And you know what everybody this
is a perfect example of if he

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wanted to, he would.
If he wanted to, he would sleep

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in his car and risk life and
limb by a satanic cult and also

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shadow people.
Come on, come on, Onomatopoeia

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Utopia, you know you are setting
an example.

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The bar is high.
The bar is set very high.

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Now before we get to the kids
being scary because kids are

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scary.
Before we get to the end, which

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was very creepy, the the figure
that you saw in the darkness in

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the field that disappeared when
you turn your headlights on.

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Of course, of course you drove
10 miles away, which is far.

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Of course you drove far, far
away to, to, to sleep somewhere

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safe where there presumably
wasn't shadow people lurking

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around in the darkness, at least
that you could see.

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I'm not, I'm, I'm not mad, but
the relationship didn't last, if

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only because you then didn't
have to sleep in your car and,

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and go through that anymore.
But again, before we get to the

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creepy kid, I want to take a
moment because of course, I have

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been doing more reading of my
most recent favorite book, The

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Exorcist Effect by Joseph
Laycock and Eric Harrelson,

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which I have talked at length
about in the Annabelle episode

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and we'll continue to talk about
in future episodes because like

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I said, it is my new current
favorite book.

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So in the Satanic Panic chapter,
which is definitely going to be

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a deep dive of mine at some
point, but I don't know how many

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chapters it's going to take.
I don't know how many episodes

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it'll take because there's so
much to say.

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But in the Satanic Panic chapter
where they were talking

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specifically about, you know,
Satanic Panic has led to there

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being a fear of these satanic
colds.

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So I'm actually going to read.
I tried to, you know what?

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I just did a few takes and I'm
not explaining it really well.

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So I'm just going to read this
quick excerpt from the book.

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So it says, however, there is
one significant variation when

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analyzing fantasies of evil
rituals.

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And this concerns whether the
religious other resides in the

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country or in the city.
The fantasy of the country cult

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invokes a fear of archaic
religion that has somehow

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endured in parts of the world
that modernity has never

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reached.
In the fantasy of the city cult,

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the cultists live among us and
are often elites.

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They not only participate in
modernity, but are largely

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responsible for it, having
corrupted social institutions

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for generations.
These categories manifest in

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both conspiracy theories and
films.

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So the Satanic cult mentioned in
this story would be a perfect

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example of a country cult.
Because I actually reached out

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to Onomatopoeia Utopia and they
were super helpful and gave me

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some more information that this
occurred in a little

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unincorporated town of North
Texas, about an hour West of

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Fort Worth.
So an unincorporated town is is

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definitely the definition of
country.

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And, you know, supposedly this
cult had kind of been out of the

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area for about a decade.
I think either that was in a

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note that they sent me or it was
in the story.

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Either way, that lines with the
80s and and Satanic panic.

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And, you know, Oprah was talking
about it like daytime talk shows

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were talking about it.
This was in the news.

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This was, it was huge all over
the place.

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And so, yeah, I think it's
completely fair that the people

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of this unincorporated town, I
think that's completely fair

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that they would have thought
that there were Satanic rituals

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or Satanic cults going on there.
In fact, law enforcement

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actually had trainings in the
80s, maybe even the early 90s.

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Actually, I have not, I have not
double checked my dates for

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this, but I'm, I'm, I'm eyeballs
deep in the Satanic panic right

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now.
So literally law enforcement,

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the police were being trained on
how to spot satanic rituals, on

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how to spot like satanic ritual
abuse in children.

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And none of this was real.
And all of this was debunked and

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people actually went to prison
for nothing because it wasn't

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happening.
It's super sad.

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It's incredibly tragic.
And it's just crazy to think

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that, yeah, cops were actually
getting taught how to identify

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if something is is satanic or
not, when really that wasn't

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really happening.
Like that wasn't really

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happening.
However, if there wasn't a cult

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or like the remnants of a cult,
then what was the drumming?

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What was the drumming if that,
if it wasn't them?

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I mean, it's I guess it's
possible that there were some

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indigenous people still living
on the land and y'all just

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didn't know?
Or was it ghosts?

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Was it?
I mean, they didn't seem like

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friendly ghosts.
They definitely seemed like

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threatening ghosts who did not
want you there sleeping in your

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car.
Although maybe they were just

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looking out for you.
Maybe they were just worried.

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Maybe they were concerned
ghosts, but I wanted to give an

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idea of what I was kind of
thinking in terms of like tribal

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drums.
So I actually looked up some

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indigenous drum chants
specifically that might have

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been used around the area.
So here is my interpretation of

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Wishita Duya, which is a water
song.

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So I want you to imagine hearing
that in the middle of the night

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in the dark because there aren't
any lights around, because this

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is an unincorporated town.
You're sleeping in your car.

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And just imagine that that was
like real drums, like scary

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sounding like big drums, like
tribal sounding drums, which are

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not inherently scary.
But lots of things that are not

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inherently scary become
extremely scary when they are

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happening in the middle of the
night and you are alone and

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there is no light and you feel
unsafe.

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So just imagine that Otherwise
that's a perfectly, that's a

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perfectly good intentioned song.
It is supposed to bring the

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rain.
Supposed to bring the rain.

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OK, finally on to the on to the
scariest part, which is the four

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year old.
I like it.

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You just kind of like tacked us
on at the end and it's so scary.

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So, you know, like, I would
assume that a normal 4 year old

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probably doesn't have the
vocabulary to be able to know

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what justification means and is
probably not watching the kind

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of content in which they would
learn or that they would think

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to talk about killing their
parents.

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You know, I mean, like there
weren't parental controls in

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1998.
So, you know, I mean, I

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definitely was exposed to a lot
of content, terrifying,

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traumatic content that I should
not have been watching when I

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was a child.
And so maybe that was the case

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here.
But what's scarier to imagine

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is, yeah, whatever's behind this
drumming, if it's not

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well-intentioned and it's not
just the Water Song, if it was a

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far more insidious intent, are
they is that is this entity

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behind the drums also the one
whispering presumably through

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the speakers where only this 4
year old can hear?

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There's justification in killing
your parents.

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If I had it, This is This is why
there is not little little baby

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Madam Strangeways.
There's no Madam, Madam

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Strangeways junior rolling
around.

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OK.
And I'll tell you why.

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Because if I had a four year old
and they told me that I don't

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know what I would do.
I don't know what I would do.

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Like, hello, police.
I don't know, 911 What do you

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do?
What do you do?

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You have to live with this child
in your home after they say

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that.
And you have to pretend like

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you're the you're the adult.
So you're brave and you're

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courageous and that doesn't
bother you.

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And then you're laying in bed
staring at the ceiling, eyes

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wide open.
And when you do sleep, you got

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to sleep with one eye open to
make sure that your child

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doesn't come and murder you.
Awful, do not like I will say,

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going back to the form that you
saw in the field in the dark and

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then when you put your
headlights on, they were gone.

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I did see a TikTok and I tried
to find it just now and I did

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not try very hard.
But if you know what it is, let

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me know.
But there's a there's a

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phenomenon that happens in
phenomena.

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It's impossible.
I can't help it.

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It's, it's, it's, it's a
compulsion and it actually is

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really annoying.
So anyway, it's a phenomena

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where in the fog, the way that
the wind is blowing and the way

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that like the sun or like light
or, you know, even if it's just

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sunlight reflecting off of the
moon, I would imagine that it

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makes it look like there are
human figures moving in the mist

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and it looks like they're kind
of coming through the fog toward

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you and then no one is coming
toward you.

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So I will say that there is
phenomenon.

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God, how many times can I say
that word and not saying it?

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Damn you Muppets.
You know, So there is there is a

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there is a phenomenon that
explains it.

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And it's like there's a fifth
time.

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The point is, is that it there
is a reason there is an

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explanation for something
similar to that happening,

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whether or not that is what
happened in this case.

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I just, me personally, I don't
want it to be an evil entity

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that's also behind drumming,
that is also whispering in

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little girl's ears that there's
justification in killing their

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parents.
I don't want that.

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Unfortunately, onomatopoeia
utopia, you don't really have

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that luxury because it did
happen to you.

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And I'm sure the terror that you
experienced, I know the terror

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that you experienced was very,
very real.

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And I imagine that there's just
no no way to explain it that

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will, that will explain that
primal terror that you

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experienced that night.
So I'm sorry or multiple nights.

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I'm sorry that you had to
experience that.

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I'm sorry that you had to sleep
in your car.

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Sounds awful.
But on a happy note, I did love

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that the dogs walked you to your
car every night.

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That was really sweet.
Aw, that's sweet.

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Thank you so much for letting me
read your story.

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I really appreciated it.
And if anyone has a similar

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story that they'd like to hear
read on the show, please go

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ahead. e-mail it to me at
maddenstrangeways@gmail.com.

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Girls voice telling us to stop
it.

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Bye OMG real UFO.
Hey guys, I was hoping for a bit

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of advice or to try and get some
answers.

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I've had a couple of experiences
that I am unable to explain.

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I'll start from the first
incident when I was around 11

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years old and my brother was 14.
We lived in a new build home in

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Wales.
Very normal looking house and it

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definitely did not feel or look
haunted.

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We found a couple of strange
things in the back garden when

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we were younger, such as old
bottles and a pair of old broken

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sunglasses.
Not sure if it's related or not

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but thought I'd mention it.
One of the first strange things

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that happened was when my mum
called us downstairs As for some

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reason there was a glass of milk
on our kitchen table that was

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full to the brim.
Like it was so full if you moved

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it, it would spill.
My brother and I had no idea as

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neither of us did it.
We went to the living room for

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something and when we came back,
the glass of milk.

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Was empty, weird but didn't
think much of it.

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Fast forward a couple of weeks
later, me and my brother were

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playing The Sims game on the
computer.

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It was only me and him in the
house as my mother was working

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late.
We were creating a new SIM when

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all of a sudden something came
between me and my brother's ear

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and said stop it.
It was the creepiest thing I've

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ever heard in my life and still
to this day I can hear it.

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It was really unnatural, I could
almost feel the breath and it

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freaked us both out.
We both turned and looked at

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each other and said did you hear
that?

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We both jumped out of our seats
and ran to the other room.

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Called our mother and told her
Anne.

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She just chalked it up as our
imagination.

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But whatever happened to us was
real and definitely happened.

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I've done a bit of research on
it and have found that ghosts do

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sometimes whisper stuff in your
ears.

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Freaky stuff.
Fast forward to a few years

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later.
Nothing paranormal after the

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milk and whispering ghost girl
thing incident.

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But then there was one night
when I was in bed, I had ATV in

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the bedroom and the street
lights outside would make the

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screen reflect stuff so I could
see things in my hallway,

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etcetera.
It was around 3:00 AM when I

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randomly woke up and I saw what
looked like a woman in a white

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gown walk into my bathroom and
the door shut behind them.

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Freaked me right out.
I said to myself it's probably

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my brother as he had a white
dressing gown.

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I decided to get up and have a
look.

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I knocked on the door expecting
my brother to reply but there

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was no answer so I opened the
door and there was nobody in

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there.
Scared the shit out of me.

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I ran back to bed and pulled the
sheets over my head then ended

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up falling asleep.
I told my mom and brother about

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it but they both just said I
must have been dreaming.

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Weird.
Other than those incidents,

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nothing else really happened
until now.

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So Fast forward to today, I'm
now 28.

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I completely forgot about the
whispering ghost girl until my

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brother brought it up to me a
couple weeks ago.

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Once I started to remember it,
some strange shit started

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happening.
Now this only happens when I'm

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at work, it's never happened in
my flat or anywhere else.

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But basically I was sitting in
the work canteen having my lunch

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and in the corner of my eye I
saw what looked like a man in an

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orange hoodie with his hood up
and blue jeans.

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When I turn to look it
disappears.

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It doesn't happen every day, but
it happens a lot.

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Always the same orange hoodie
and blue jeans.

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Now where I work is right next
to Cardiff Central train

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station.
I'm not sure if that's linked at

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all, maybe a death on the
railway or something, but I'm

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still seeing this orange hoodie
man to this day and I just want

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to know what people think.
I've never seen their face as

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their head is down with the hood
up.

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Am I more open to paranormal
things or spirits because of

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what happened when I was younger
or am I just going crazy?

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Any advice or help would be
greatly appreciated.

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OMG real UFO.
I'm going to do a little bit of

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just a just a small amount just
a really just a small amount of

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victim blaming because what were
you and your brother getting up

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to on The Sims?
What were you doing?

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I have questions, you know, Were
you making an exceptionally ugly

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SIM?
Were you making that SIM a

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vampire?
Were you making them a never

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nude?
Or maybe you're remembering

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wrong.
You weren't just building Sims,

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you were trapping them in houses
and then setting the houses on

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fire or putting them in the pool
and removing the ladder from the

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pool.
If that's not how you play The

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Sims, that's wild to me.
That's the only way that I know

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to play The Sims.
So maybe that's what you were up

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to.
And that ghost was saying, cut

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that out, cut out those SIM
shenanigans.

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Although they could have been a
little bit more polite about it.

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But when it comes to the things
that you experienced as a kid in

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that house growing up, you know,
maybe if you're seeing that

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through the lens of the
paranormal being normal, like if

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you were raised and the
paranormal was normal, super

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normal para Hold on a second.
What's the opposite of

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paranormal?
Hold on?

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What does para even mean in
paranormal hold, please?

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Good news everyone.
I have an answer.

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And the prefix para like
paragraph, paratrooper,

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paranormal, that suffix has many
meanings, including alongside

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of, beside, near, resembling,
beyond, apart from and abnormal.

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So I would assume paranormal
would be the abnormal, but then

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does paranormal.
So does that mean that

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paranormal is just abnormal,
normal, abnormal normal?

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Perhaps Abby normal?
There's something abnormal,

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Abby, paranormal, paranormal.
That's got to be something

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someone's come up with.
Anyway, moving on to your

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question, are you crazy or has
your experience, your past

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experience with the paranormal
made you more susceptible?

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Well number one, I don't think
you're going crazy.

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I am not a medical professional,
I am not in any position to

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diagnose anyone with anything.
However, it doesn't sound like

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you're going crazy even if you
are hallucinating this orange

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hoodie man, but that still
doesn't mean you're going crazy.

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I've talked at length about how
how normal it is to have the

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hallucinations.
Obviously in some cases

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hallucinations are not normal,
but still doesn't make you

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crazy.
OK, I do.

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I do feel very strongly about
getting rid of the stigma around

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the hallucinations that we all
experience every single day, but

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I'm not going to harp on that
right now.

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Here is what I'm going to jump
on though is asking the

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Internet, especially Reddit,
especially paranormal or

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paranormal subreddits,
especially those asking them

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because I see this a lot.
People post their story and they

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ask like is this a demon?
Is this paranormal?

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Is this supernatural?
Is a demon hunting me?

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Am I being haunted?
Am I cursed?

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Is there did did a witch put a
curse on me?

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Like these are the questions
that that people ask a lot on

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the subreddits.
And I can tell that it's being

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asked with a huge amount of
anxiety.

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And I think people just want,
you know, an expert to tell them

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what it is.
Tell me what it is because

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uncertainty and not knowing is
terrible, right?

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It you feel out of control, you
feel like if you could just know

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the answer, then you can start
making moves to find a solution,

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right?
But if you don't know what it's

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wrong, then how can you fix it?
And it just, it's scary.

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However, asking Reddit, if I'm,
if you're being possessed,

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they're going to tell you, yes,
there are a small but very

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active group of people,
especially that comment on these

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threads.
And if you say, do you think

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this is a ghost, they are
definitely going to respond and

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tell you, yes, definitely.
Or actually it's worse than a

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ghost.
Actually, it's a demon.

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What it sounds like you're
working with there is a demon.

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And they're going to tell you as
if they are an expert, which

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they are not.
Spoiler alert.

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They are going to tell you with
so much confidence how to fix

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it.
They're going to say you need to

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sage your bedroom, you know, or
you need to sage the room that

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you're experiencing, to sage the
whole house.

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You need to sage, you need to go
buy some crystals.

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Also, you need to say a prayer
in whichever God's name.

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Well, let me tell you, to me
that is fear mongering and I

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hate it.
It's it's along the lines of Ed

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and Lorraine Warren.
So if you're not listening to my

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series on the Warren's case
files, starting with The

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Amityville Horror, moving on to
Annabelle, I'm not doing it in

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alphabetical order, but and, and
I am.

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Wow, that's completely on
accident.

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I just realized that.
Anyway, listen to those because

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I do have a problem with people
who are fear mongering,

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especially when it comes to
invisible things like ghosts and

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demons.
Because how do you prove them

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wrong?
You know, but they're not

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experts.
They don't know.

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They have no idea what's going
on in your life.

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They do not know.
They are just some rando on the

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Internet and definitely do not
take advice from these people.

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If you see them giving advice,
they don't know any better.

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00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,280
They don't.
They did not attend the

452
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,520
Winchester school for demon
hunting.

453
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
All right, They didn't.
I don't care what they tell you.

454
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,080
So just just as it just as it
just as an FYI, just remember,

455
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,040
if you're looking for advice on
the Internet about your

456
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,760
supernatural situation, a lot of
the time people are going to

457
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,120
take advantage of your question
and your vulnerability and you

458
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,040
are being vulnerable sharing
this online to a bunch of

459
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,640
strangers and they're going to
take advantage of it to spread

460
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,520
fear and potentially to spread
their religion.

461
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,120
So I take issue with it.
Just take everything that they

462
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,080
say with a grain of salt and
don't ever let a rando on the

463
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Internet on a, on a paranormal
Internet group.

464
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Don't ever let them scare you.
Don't, don't, don't listen to

465
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,200
them because they don't know.
They don't know, they don't know

466
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,600
you.
They don't know your situation.

467
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,800
So just a warning, I don't know
either.

468
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,320
I have no idea what's going on
in this situation.

469
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360
And I'm going to be honest and
tell you I don't know.

470
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:08,320
But here's what I do know.
I did some digging into deaths

471
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,520
that happened at or around the
Cardiff Central train station.

472
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,720
So there are deaths at the
station related to the train or

473
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,360
related to the rail, but there's
just not any detail on them.

474
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,080
It's basically like a person
died but it wasn't suspicious so

475
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,560
there's not going to be an
inquest.

476
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,640
The end.
So there's not really much to go

477
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920
on there.
I did find the death of one man

478
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,040
whose name I'm not going to
share because I'm not trying to

479
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360
make this a conspiracy theory,
but you could easily find it if

480
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,320
you searched yourself where he
died and they found his body 2

481
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,560
weeks later in the bushes near
the central train station.

482
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,240
I think this was like around
like prime pandemic years.

483
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Unfortunately, in all the photos
of him, he's never wearing an

484
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040
orange hoodie.
That's not to say he never owned

485
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,120
one or never wore one.
It's not to say that he didn't

486
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
die in one.
But it didn't seem it didn't

487
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,320
seem it didn't pan out.
It's a possibility, but probably

488
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,520
not a probability.
So I'm all out of leads.

489
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Sorry I couldn't track down who
your orange hoodie person was.

490
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,000
I don't even think I talked
about the milk thing really

491
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
quickly.
Let's touch on the milk because

492
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,080
I don't think I have drank a cup
of milk, like a glass of milk

493
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,960
like alone since I was a child.
I don't even know if I ever just

494
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,040
drank just a glass of milk.
That sounds like psychotic

495
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,800
behavior to me to like a full
glass all the way to the top

496
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,720
where if it moved even a little
bit it would spill.

497
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,920
That's already kind of scary,
but then the thought that like,

498
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920
you left the room, you came back
and it's totally empty.

499
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,520
So this goes just straight up
like shotgunned a glass of milk,

500
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,360
like Narian Oreo to be seen.
No other cookies or I guess

501
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,960
biscuits, as I assume you would
say.

502
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,360
The concept of just having a
glass of milk straight up, no,

503
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840
no chaser.
That's crazy.

504
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,280
That's the maybe that's the
scariest part of this story is

505
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,440
that thought so OMG real UFO.
Thank you so much for letting me

506
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,000
share this story.
But you know, since your name

507
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:26,679
has UFO in it, I'm kind of I'm
I'm going to need you to have a

508
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,080
UFO story and I'm going to need
you to let me read it.

509
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,480
So just get on that.
If you haven't seen a UFO, I'm

510
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,560
going to need you to figure it
out, see a UFO and then write it

511
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,960
up and then send it to me.
Hopefully it's not traumatic.

512
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,159
So thanks, Appreciate it in
advance.

513
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,740
Thank you so much for listening
to these spooky stories.

514
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:06,500
Remember that you can feel
afraid and not be in danger.

515
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,880
So if you have a true strange
story that you'd like to hear

516
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,400
read on the show, go ahead and
send it to me, Madam

517
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,560
strangeways@gmail.com or Madam
strangeways.com.

518
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,240
And since word of mouth is so
important for podcasts, if you

519
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:28,440
could, to me just one little
weird, spooky, strange, solid,

520
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,800
that would be amazing.
And that would be telling your

521
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,920
friends about the show.
I'd really appreciate it.

522
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,280
Madame Strangeways is produced
and narrated by me.

523
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Madame Strangeways theme music
is by

524
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,080
marina.ryan@marinamakes.co.
All stories are read with the

525
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,360
explicit permission from their
original authors.

526
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,120
Thank you so much for listening.
See you next time.

527
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:22,020
We both jumped out of our seats
and ran to the other room,

528
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:26,700
called our mother and told her,
and just as she chalked it up,

529
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:32,060
God damn it, I thought I was, I
was, I was really doing

530
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:33,060
something there.