Tales From A Haunted Apartment | True Spooky Stories of the Strange & Unusual | #24

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Anyway, on to the strange
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Ways.
The Haunted Apartment by Ted In

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2008 we moved to a new
apartment.

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Orange County is home to the
largest concentration of

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Vietnamese Americans, with a few
generations being here since

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before the 70s.
That part is important.

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We were excited to move to a
new, more spacious 2 story apt.

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I was going off to college but
still stayed at home to save on

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money.
Nothing seemed out of place.

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Although I occasionally had
sleep paralysis, I understood

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the physiological reason behind
these episodes.

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The Theta brain waves invading
other waves during R.E.M, so

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knowing how it works gave me
peace.

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The visual and auditory
hallucinations were explained

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away, although deep down I never
fully got reassured.

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The things I saw included the
dark figure at the end of my

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bed, the creaking of the
mattress as I felt the

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indentation of someone sitting
on it, the hearing of footsteps

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walking up the stairs, and a
deep voice saying you know I'm

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going to come get you right.
I even learned to wilfully wake

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myself up from sleep paralysis
so whenever it got a little too

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scary I would try to shake my
head and enter reality.

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Everything seemed manageable
until one night.

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I was studying well into the
early morning.

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Around 3:00 AM in the living
room, I heard footsteps coming

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down the stairs from the
upstairs bedroom.

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That was not too peculiar.
People in my family would come

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down for a glass of water or
tell me to turn down the volume

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of the TV.
This time it was my teenage

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sister.
She had a dazed look on her

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face, walking sort of aimlessly
through the living room into the

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kitchen.
It was a weird slow walk, as if

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she wasn't familiar with the
layout of the kitchen.

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I was intrigued, so I watched
her closely.

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She walked to the kitchen
window, open an imaginary door

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in front of it, looked up and
down, closed it, turned around

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and walked back upstairs.
I figured she was sleepwalking

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and chuckled to myself that it
was weird, and then went back to

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studying.
A few weeks later I found out,

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incidentally from the landlord
that the tenant before last had

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a brown fridge next to the
kitchen window.

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I asked to look at the picture
he took before they moved out

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and the fridge was exactly where
she was pretending to open a

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door while sleepwalking.
I was flabbergasted.

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However, I tried to explain it
away as a crazy coincidence and

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brushed it off.
However, that was not the end

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for this apartment.
Another late night studying.

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I was laying back on the sofa
with my laptop on my chest.

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After an hour in that position
my back was hurting a bit so I

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sat up to put my laptop on the
coffee table.

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Just before I could put it down,
the table slid away from me.

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It was a good foot of movement.
I froze, trying to process what

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just happened.
In California, earthquakes

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aren't uncommon, so I explained
it away as that, even though I

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knew no earthquake powerful
enough to move a heavy coffee

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table would only affect said
table.

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After brushing it off, I went
back to studying.

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We welcomed a new addition to
our house.

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A year later my baby sister was
born and she was the joy of our

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lives.
I loved taking care and spending

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time with her.
When she was two, I was taking

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care of her.
One morning we were alone in the

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apartment.
After giving her a bath and

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clothing her, I was taking her
downstairs to get something to

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eat.
I was down a couple steps of

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stairs and she was about to
follow me when she turned back

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to look at the bedroom hallway.
She said look there's a lady

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there.
I grabbed her and booked it

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downstairs immediately.
I played it off as her

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imagination and once again
didn't want to acknowledge it.

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Shortly thereafter we got a
roommate.

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He was the son of a family
friend and we gave him a place

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to stay temporarily.
He and I stayed in the same

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room.
Now I should preface this with

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the room we were staying in had
things going bump in the night,

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but I was in denial about it as
before.

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The feeling of being watched,
feeling the bottom of my

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mattress depressed as if someone
was sitting on it, the door

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opening on its own, etcetera.
The same thing was happening to

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both of us when he moved in,
especially the door.

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It would open on its own at
around 4:00 AM every night.

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I asked everyone at home to see
if they had opened the door to

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check on us, and no one said
that they did.

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I tried to rule out any physical
explanation.

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The window was closed, so it
wasn't the outside air creating

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a vacuum.
Pulling the door open.

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We changed the locks, then the
door, then changed the hole in

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the door frame where the locking
mechanism goes in.

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The activity continued.
We were up late one night, each

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on our bed, on our laptop.
We heard the door handle turning

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and looked up to see who's
checking in on us.

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The door creaked open and the
door handle turned back to its

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original position.
We looked at each other,

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bewildered.
I got up, closed the door,

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locked it, and we both just went
to sleep without saying a word

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to each other.
I was then finally convinced

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that there was no explanation
for what was happening.

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My roommate was also an amateur
rapper in Vietnamese and would

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write and record his own songs.
One afternoon I came back from

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my class and saw him lying in
his bed with his headphones on,

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staring intently at his laptop.
His face was flushed and he

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looked shocked.
He told me to put on the

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headphones and said listen to
this.

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I saw the audiogram on his
playback program and all of the

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spikes of his voice.
A few flat seconds before he

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started singing, however, I saw
one single spike.

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He played it the voice of an old
man, slightly higher pitch,

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saying Zhang Len, which means
keep going in Vietnamese.

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He was visibly scared.
That was the first EVP we

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recorded in that room.
I put a recorder in that room

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later and went to school.
There was no one at home during

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the day.
Everyone either went to work or

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school.
I got home early that day and

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listened to the playback while
studying.

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In the middle of doing
differential equations, I heard

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an older lady laughing.
I would guess from her voice

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that she was middle-aged.
I rationalized it as background

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noise from the apartment
complex.

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Maybe one of the neighbors was
laughing really loudly and the

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voice travelled into my room.
After asking all of the

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neighbors around me, it was
confirmed that no one was home

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during that 6 hour time frame.
Still, I reasoned that it must

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have been from another apartment
nearby.

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One night I woke up in the
middle of sleep and knew I was

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having sleep paralysis.
I was on my side looking at my

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roommate.
I couldn't fully see his face

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because there was a pair of pale
white legs in front of it.

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It was clearly a pair of legs
belonging to a girl or woman.

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She was wearing one of those
black booty shorts that had

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Victoria's Secret on it.
She wasn't my sister because her

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legs and thighs are not as thin.
The pair of legs turned around

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and started to bend down.
I reacted by closing my eyes.

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I knew she was looking at me.
I pretended to still be asleep.

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I willed myself to move and
shake my head.

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If I could shake my head, I
usually would wake up and I did

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and saw my roommate looking at
me.

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I could tell that he saw her too
because with his scared

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expression he turned towards the
wall and went back to sleep.

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Eventually he found a place of
his own and moved out.

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I moved to the other bedroom
with my little brother who was

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closer to my age and left my 2
little sisters to stay in my old

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room.
My little brother refused to

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believe in the supernatural and
neither did my parents.

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They were devout Roman Catholic,
and they said no ghosts or

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demons could live in a House of
God.

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There were crosses and pictures
of Jesus and the Virgin Mary all

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through the apartment.
There was even a heavy wooden

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cross on the wall right above
where I slept.

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One night I was sleeping
soundly.

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Suddenly I heard someone yell in
my left ear.

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Tan.
I jolted awake.

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Tan is my Vietnamese name.
I put my legs and hands up in

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full guard position.
Years of wrestling in judo gave

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me that reflex.
As I did so, the heavy wooden

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cross fell and landed on my
hands.

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The weight of it pushed my hands
to my face and it hurt a little.

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I was feeling a plethora of
emotions, fear, confusion, a

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little bit of adrenaline.
I looked at my little brother,

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still sleeping soundly.
Surely he didn't hear someone

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yelling, otherwise he would have
been awake.

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I looked at the cross, then
looked up at the wall where it

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used to be.
The nail where it was hung on

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was still there.
I put the cross on the table and

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pulled the cover over my head,
trying not to think about what

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happened.
In 2009, the whole family went

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back to Vietnam for a visit.
We visited relatives and had a

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fun vacation.
I went to the temple where my

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grandpa's ashes were kept.
In this small room filled with

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incense and candles was a wall
full of boxes of ash with names

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and pictures on each of the
descendants.

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It was a solemn atmosphere, and
even though I was not Buddhist,

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I put my hands together and
listened as everyone else

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prayed.
All of a sudden, I felt numb.

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My whole body was not responding
to my commands.

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I was unable to move.
It was as if I was having sleep

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paralysis, except I was awake.
It felt like I was trapped in my

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own mind and my body belonged to
someone else.

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My eyes became blurry.
I was standing in the front row

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and there was a couple of rows
of people behind me.

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With my blurry vision, I saw my
grandpa in the same outfit he

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was in, except his light blue
button shirt was now white.

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Standing at the spot where his
ashes were, I felt very

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emotional.
Perhaps it was this shock that

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gave me control back of my body
and I leaned over to tell my

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uncle.
I see grandpa.

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He just nodded.
It was more natural to accept

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the paranormal in Buddhism.
I felt glad to have experienced

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it, to maybe see my grandpa one
last time.

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After that, we stayed in Vietnam
for a few more days.

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One of those days we were at a
party at my grandma's house.

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It was customary to have a
shrine in a house honoring the

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ancestors of a family.
On the altar were pictures of my

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great grandparents and other
elders that passed away.

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The altar was on the 4th floor
and we were eating and drinking

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on the ground floor.
I got drunk and asked to go

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upstairs to lay down.
The last thing I remembered was

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falling asleep with a couple of
my uncles and aunt next to me

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talking.
What I was told, however, was

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something astonishing.
Apparently, after 30 minutes or

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so, I sat up, looked at my uncle
and aunt with distant eyes.

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I stroked my imaginary beard and
said, is Tam's family visiting?

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That's good to know.
My dad's name is Tam.

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I continue to say things that I
couldn't have known about the

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family members.
My dad, a forever Catholic, went

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upstairs to the altar to light
an incense offering for the

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ancestors.
Shortly after, I fell back to

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sleep.
It's worth noting that my great

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grandfather had a long beard and
I bear a resemblance to him.

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I had to go back to the US
earlier because classes were

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going to start before everyone
else would have gotten back.

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I was staying in the apartment
by myself, tired from the jet

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lag and the different time zone.
I couldn't sleep.

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I put on an exercise DVD in the
living room, did an hour of

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cardio, then cooled down with an
hour of yoga.

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At the end of the session there
was a minute of meditation.

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I've done meditation before in
my martial art class.

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We would sit in a circle, cross
legged, breathe through our

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navel, let go of our own
consciousness.

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At one point I would even feel
weightless and an overwhelming

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sense of peace would come over
me.

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I figured if I could do that in
a class with ten others, then

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there was no reason why I
shouldn't be able to do it alone

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at 3.
AMI closed my eyes and the voice

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from the DVD chanted.
Oh, I didn't have the volume up

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because it was early in the
morning and I didn't want to

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disturb the neighbors.
After the second ohm, I started

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to feel peace and a little bit
weightless.

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In the middle of the third ohm,
however, I felt a hot breath on

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my right ear and heard loud
whispers.

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It lasted for maybe half a
second, and when I opened my

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eyes, I saw no one around me.
I looked around, still dazed

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from the meditation.
I called my friend and told him

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I was going to sleep over at his
house.

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I've seen enough scary movies to
know exploring what was

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happening further was a bad
idea.

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Needless to say, I no longer
meditate by myself, especially

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when I don't have the tools to
protect myself in a new

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environment.
I still did not tell my parents

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about any of these incredible
experiences because I did not

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want to challenge them.
I was also not the only one that

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had paranormal experiences in
this apartment.

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However, my little sister, the
one sleepwalking to the

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imaginary fridge, came home one
night.

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She was parking the car and saw
my dad washing dishes in the

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window on the second floor.
She came up and asked when his

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sister came over.
He said no, it's late, she's

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probably at home.
She told him, I saw you washing

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dishes by the window and an
older woman with white hair and

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a bun standing behind you.
My dad became defensive and told

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her to stop watching scary
movies and imagining things.

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My dad's sister and my little
sister were also the only ones

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feeling the presence in the
bedroom and the weight of

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someone sitting at the end of
the bed.

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Eventually I moved out of my
parents apartment.

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Apart from scaring me, I didn't
feel anything malevolent there.

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I would come back sometimes to
have a sleepover, especially

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when my mom cooked something I
loved and I ate too much and

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felt sleepy.
One night I went to sleep in the

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room where the cross fell.
Everything was normal and I felt

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comfortable.
My little sister's closed laptop

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was in the room as it was her
room after all, and she was away

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on a school trip.
I locked the room because I

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didn't want any funny business
that night and went to sleep.

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Suddenly I was jolted awake
because loud music was playing.

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I turned on the light.
The laptop was open and YouTube

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was on.
Whatever my sister was listening

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to was playing.
It wasn't possible, I told

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myself.
The laptop was closed when I

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went to sleep, even if I was
sleepwalking.

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I didn't know her password to
log in.

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My chest was pounding.
Whoever it was in the room

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wanted to play a prank with me,
Moore wanted me to know it was

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there.
Ted, you know you never

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disappoint.
You've had so many traumatizing

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experiences and yet you're just
so nonchalant about it.

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Every single time something
scary happens to you, you're

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just like, you know what?
No it didn't and also I'm not

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going to tell my parents because
this will ruin the.

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Illusion that they have thinking
that this sort.

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Of thing can't happen in their
home.

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I love it every single time
you're like, there's really a

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scary thing happened, but I just
told myself I was making it up.

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How many times does something
scary have to happen in order

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for you to go?
Maybe that actually just

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happened, but also, I understand
wanting to protect your

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psychological safety any way
that you can.

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You do hear this again and
again.

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In in in these.
True scary stories.

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That happen to people over and
over You.

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Hear the person that it happened
to saying you know either.

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They didn't acknowledge it or
their.

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Family didn't acknowledge it.
They were all experiencing these

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things separately from one
another and just choosing not to

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talk about it.
They didn't want to bring it up

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either.
They didn't want to like give.

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Power to this.
Thing that's, you know,

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presumably lurking in their.
House and and terrorizing them.

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Or, you know, they don't want to
scare their family members.

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Or they don't want to be labeled
as crazy.

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There's so many reasons.
And then when they get.

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Older and presumably are no
longer in the home.

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Then they bring it up like, hey,
do you remember that terrifying

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experience that I thought I was
the only one who experienced?

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Oh, actually everyone else was
experiencing this as well at the

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same time.
Crazy, crazy how that happens.

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All right, we're just going to
go.

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We're going to go through.
I'm going to.

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Try to hit everything.
I'm going to try to hit

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everything.
See if I can do it.

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At your sister sleepwalking to
the imaginary door where a

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refrigerator had previously been
located when they lived there.

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That's wild that right out the
gate you've got sleepwalking

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sister, the sleepwalking sister
in the imaginary fridge.

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It's like one of the Hardy Boys
type novels in your in your

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compendium.
It's crazy.

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That's wild, especially it's
just how there's no way you

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would know that there's no way
you would know.

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Oh, there used to be a fridge
there.

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She would not pick that up.
I don't think even

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subconsciously right then we've
got the coffee table moving,

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sliding away from you out of I
don't know where.

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That's really scary.
I had something similar happen

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to me when I was younger, but it
was on a heavy table and I've

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rationalized it to myself and
explained how it moved on its

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own.
But if the, if I think you said

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that the table moved like a foot
away, which I don't know, I

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don't know, I don't know how to
explain that.

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And that would scare the shit
out of me and I would be like,

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Nope, no more studying.
Obviously whatever entity is in

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this house does not want me to
study.

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So you, there you go.
I, you've got it.

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No more studying.
I would get no studying done.

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So you're way more dedicated
than I was or I am or would be.

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Then you've got your two year
old sister kids.

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We've talked about this.
Everybody knows.

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Everybody knows, even.
Emma over at a.

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Real life ghost stories, which
if you are not listening to

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Emma, I think her name is Emma.
Sorry Emma, that's not your

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name.
Real life ghost stories.

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Fantastic podcast.
But she is always talking about

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how scary children are and they
are so scary.

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So you've got a 2 year old scary
period already scary and then

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pointing to an empty hallway and
going like there's a lady there.

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Like Oh no, get out.
That's not you're out.

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No, no more talking cute little
2 year old sister.

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You are no longer allowed to
talk.

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Absolutely not, Absolutely not,
Absolutely not so scary toddler

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woof.
Nope.

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Next door handle, the door
handle turning an opening by

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itself.
Not even just the door handle.

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I should, let me, let me
rephrase.

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The bedroom door opening every
night at 4:00 AM.

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It's like you replace the door,
you replace the locks, the door

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frame.
You, you did it so well, you did

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everything right.
How do we avoid?

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How do we, how do we remove the
unexplainable from the

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situation?
Which is exactly what ghost

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hunters do.
Ghost hunters are not trying

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necessarily to prove it is
ghosts.

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They're trying to figure out
what it is.

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Which means you first have to
remove explained phenomena.

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Can you explain it?
Great.

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Then it's not a ghost, right?
So that's what you were doing.

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You were using that same logic.
Let's change everything that we

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can around the situation and if
it's still happening, then it is

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kind of.
Unexplained and also terrifying.

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And it's your room.
Like, talk about psychological

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safety.
There's zero psychological

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safety when your bedroom door is
opening every night at 4:00 AM,

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even if you replace the door and
the locks.

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And then after all of that, you
guys see the door handle turn

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and there's no one there.
No, no.

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I don't know how you, I don't
know how you, I don't know how

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you did it.
You were a stronger person than

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I am.
Probably stronger than most of

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the people listening.
I mean, I know you know you

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don't have a choice, right?
You're where else are you going

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to go?
Like you're in school.

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You can't afford your own place.
You just have to kind of put

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your blinders on and just
pretend like it's not happening,

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which is what you did.
So, you know, you had to protect

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yourself somehow, OK.
Next.

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Let's see what's next.
Oh my God, your roommate, your

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temporary roommate recording
that voice, The old man voice

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while he was recording.
I doubt that that audio still

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exists, but wow, if it does, I
would love to share that EVP

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with everybody, but I'm assuming
that it's gone because I mean,

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he probably didn't want it and
he probably was like, get off of

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my file, don't haunt my laptop.
Get out old man, you're not

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welcome here.
This laptop is clear.

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It's probably what he was going
for.

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So.
But if you find it, if you do

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find out that you still have it,
please send it to me also.

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I did.
My best I did my.

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Best to pronounce the Vietnamese
phrases and words in this story.

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I mean, I listened over and over
and over to recordings of people

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pronouncing the words, so I hope
that I did them justice.

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But please forgive me if I
either mangled them or turned

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them somehow into some sort of
deeply offensive word by

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mispronouncing it.
So apologies, but tried my best.

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All right, after the EVP, which
is crazy on its own.

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After the EVP, we have the the
laughter, the like middle-aged

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woman, just like laughing in the
middle of the day and nobody can

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explain it.
And you know, yeah, I'm with

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you.
It's like, oh, obviously it was

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just a neighbor, obviously, but
like, that's a loud neighbor,

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first of all, like really loud
in order to to pick that up.

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And then on top of that being
unlikely, no one is around at

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that time.
No one's home.

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So like who, who was laughing?
Who was phone?

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That's a reference to an old
creepypasta.

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Would also love that recording
if you still have it.

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I doubt that.
You do because I.

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Think you would have sent it to
me, but if anyone's listening

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and you happen to have a
recording of something

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unexplained, an EVP, or just
like voices that you can't

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explain or sounds like, send it
to me with your story and I'll

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totally play it.
You know me, I'll play it.

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All right, so we.
Had this unexplained loud

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laughter in the middle of the
day with no explanation.

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I don't love it.
But next, next, next, next we

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have the the pale pair of legs
you saw that were specifically I

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have to call out specifically
wearing booty shorts.

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Those are just not the words I
was expecting to read when I was

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reading the story.
I just did not expect to come

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across the words like Victoria's
Secret booty shorts.

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It sounds like there could you
could see worse things.

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It sounds like 2 presumably like
teenaged boys, you know, in a

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room at night seeing you know,
this just feels like there's

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worse things that you could have
seen.

453
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,240
I'm not saying it wasn't scary
because it sound like it sounded

454
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040
like your roommate that was in
there with you was not into it.

455
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Obviously someone is.
Someone would be someone, you

456
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,520
know people that are seeing like
the old crones you know, or like

457
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
or like a Babadook.
You know.

458
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:12,480
People that are seeing Babadooks
are begging to just see a pair

459
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:18,320
of bare women's legs wearing
Victoria's Secret booty shorts.

460
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
They are like please send them
over here.

461
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Y'all can have the Babadook?
I will take the booty shorts.

462
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Which now has me wondering if
someone if you can see legs with

463
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,680
booty shorts and then you have
other people are seeing a

464
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,520
babadook.
Can you have a babadook wearing

465
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,920
booty shorts?
Let me know your thoughts.

466
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Send them to
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

467
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,000
Babadook in booty shorts.
There's something there and I'm

468
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,480
trying really hard to not.
I'm trying really hard to not

469
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,320
fixate on it.
Baba SH booty Boo.

470
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,720
OK, I'm sorry.
I'm going to stop.

471
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,520
OK, So that I understand that
your roommate was terrified and

472
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,600
you were probably scared.
I'm just saying that there could

473
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
be scarier things.
I'm sorry that it scared you

474
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,640
though, OK?
Oh, OK, so this is like straight

475
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,880
out of The Exorcist.
You've got you're you're asleep

476
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280
and you wake up hearing someone
yell your name in your ear,

477
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
which I have talked about on the
show before.

478
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,600
That is a form of either
exploding head syndrome or an

479
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,120
auditory hallucination,
specifically hypnagogic or

480
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,440
hypnopompic, depending on if
you're waking up or falling

481
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,160
asleep when you hear the sound.
I've heard someone say my name

482
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520
before.
Like probably some people

483
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,800
listening have heard sounds when
they're falling asleep or

484
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,680
something that wakes them up.
It's a known phenomenon.

485
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,000
It's completely phenomenon.
God, it's annoying.

486
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,240
I can't, I couldn't let it go,
so sorry.

487
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,680
But it's a known phenomenon.
So it's not necessarily always

488
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,640
supernatural or unexplained.
However, as soon as you get into

489
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,080
your like defensive judo stance,
like as a re as a just a reflex,

490
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,840
which is really good reflexes,
But as soon as you get into that

491
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,640
reflex, the wooden cross hanging
on the wall falls onto your

492
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:27,240
face.
Like, come on, that like the

493
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000
sound alone, hearing someone,
hearing someone shout your name

494
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,160
alone, just even whisper, you
know your name alone while

495
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,280
you're asleep.
We're in the middle of the

496
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520
night, in the dark, alone.
When they, when they.

497
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Shouldn't be doing it.
That's already scary enough.

498
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,880
And then no, no, the the cross
is knocked off of the wall onto

499
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,720
your face.
Oh, that's really scary, really

500
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,640
scary.
And I love again, how you're

501
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,240
just like, put the cross away
and just go back to sleep.

502
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520
OK, so assuming going back to
sleep obviously helped you.

503
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,320
All right, what's next?
What's next?

504
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,280
Oh, at the family shrine.
At the family shrine where you

505
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,280
don't even remember.
This is crazy.

506
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:17,560
OK, I know like y'all just heard
the story, but it's well that

507
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,600
how how Ted is with his family.
He's he's like I'm going to go

508
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,520
to sleep.
I'm tired.

509
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,360
And then has full on
conversations as though

510
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,719
possessed by his great
grandfather, like mimicking

511
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,280
mannerisms that he probably
didn't know, right.

512
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,320
And then having no memory of it.
And then waking up and hearing

513
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,920
people tell you that.
Like, I mean, that sounds like a

514
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960
nightmare on its own.
Just like if you were just, if

515
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,800
you just blacked out drunk and
then people are telling you what

516
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,320
you did when you were drunk.
Like that's already not fun and

517
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,520
scary, honestly scary to not
remember it.

518
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,120
That's really, really spooky to
not remember things that you've

519
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,680
done.
And just even even if this, even

520
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,960
if this had nothing to do with
the supernatural and it wasn't,

521
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080
you know, presumably your
grandfather, your great

522
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,880
grandfather speaking through
you, even if none of that was

523
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,800
like applicable, just whatever
would cause you to have

524
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,720
conversations with people and
not remember any of it.

525
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,480
I know it sounds like, oh, it
could just be sleepwalking and

526
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,000
like sleep talking, still scary.
You know, so like when I give

527
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
these explanations and say, OK,
it's just auditory

528
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680
hallucinations.
You're just hearing things.

529
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,600
They're still scary even though
you have an explanation for

530
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,400
them.
So just to be clear, terrifying.

531
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,880
All right, so after after the
possession incident at the

532
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,760
shrine, get the the.
Hot breath.

533
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
On your ear while you're
meditating.

534
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,080
At least that time you were
like, Nope, I'm out, I'm out,

535
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,120
goodbye.
We're not doing this.

536
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,080
That's good.
That's the energy that these

537
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,240
other stories would would bring
out in me.

538
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,840
Nope.
I will leave now.

539
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,240
I will not be in this space
until I absolutely have to be

540
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,960
again.
So I know I think you said the

541
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
detail like you were meditating
at 3:00 AM.

542
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,240
And like I've said before in
previous episodes, I know 3:00

543
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:33,440
AM is typically, you know, known
as like the witching hour or the

544
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,520
hour that, you know, the veil
between the living world and the

545
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,640
world of the dead is thinnest.
And so a lot of people say like

546
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,160
demons are more active at 3:00
AM, ghosts are more active at

547
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,120
3:00 AM.
And typically what I say is

548
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,320
that, well, 3:00 AM is also the
time that humans with a normal

549
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,800
sleep schedule, normal ish sleep
schedule, 3:00 AM is typically

550
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120
one of the times that you do
wake up.

551
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Most common, completely
unrelated to unexplainable

552
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,360
events.
It can also be something that

553
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,880
you that you experience when you
have a lot of stress, which

554
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,960
causes a lot of cortisol and
having a lot of cortisol wakes

555
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
you up, especially around 3:00
AM.

556
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,720
So that's typically the
explanation I give for the

557
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,680
things happening at 3:00 AM.
However, Ted, you were not

558
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,360
asleep when this was happening.
Maybe, you know, I think you

559
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,560
could argue that like while
you're meditating, you, you are

560
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,120
kind of falling into a sleep
like state.

561
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,520
But even if you were, you
wouldn't have been asleep long

562
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,400
enough or like gone into R.E.M.
or out of R.E.M. for the normal

563
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
3:00 AM wake cycle to apply to
you.

564
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:57,640
So I, I, I don't like it, I
don't like, I don't like it.

565
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,920
I, I just don't it's a no from
me meditating at 3:00 AM and

566
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,440
having a hot breath on my ear
and whispering no, no thank you.

567
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,960
No thank you.
OK, so then we're we're moving

568
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,360
on to this the.
We're moving on to.

569
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Your sister who saw your dad in
the kitchen window at night and

570
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,240
saw behind him, you know, an
older woman like, oh, is it?

571
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Is our aunt over?
When did when did aunt, when did

572
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,280
our aunt come over?
No, aunt, your aunt's not there.

573
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,240
It's just your dad and no one
else is home.

574
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,640
So who did she see?
Who did she see behind him?

575
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,280
I was halfway expecting to the
story to say like, and then it

576
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,120
turned out that his, you know,
that your aunt had passed away

577
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,880
that night.
And that was the, you know, no,

578
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:04,600
just some older scary woman
hanging around, lurking behind

579
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,360
your dad while he's doing
dishes.

580
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,560
You know, it's just not helpful.
Like as a ghost, it's that's

581
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,440
just not helpful.
I don't know.

582
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840
What are you doing?
Like do the dishes?

583
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Why are you standing there
watching him like a foreman?

584
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Like do the dishes, Just do the
dishes.

585
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,600
You know, chip in.
If you're going to be a ghost,

586
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,000
you're going to be haunting a
house.

587
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,840
You need to, you need to do
something around the house.

588
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,200
You need to pitch in.
So that's what I say to that.

589
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,240
The old lady that your sister
saw in the window.

590
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:41,040
But also so scary.
All right, finally, the laptop.

591
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,200
How was it playing music?
How was it playing music?

592
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Because like you said, if even
if you were sleepwalking, you

593
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,520
didn't have access, like you
couldn't get in, like passwords,

594
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,600
whatever you can get in.
Even if you, even if you woke up

595
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,360
and you slept walked, sleep
sleepwalked, slept.

596
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Even if you woke up and you were
sleepwalking and and you're

597
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,240
asleep, you opened the laptop,
you certainly didn't sleep log

598
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,720
in, right?
So then how was it playing?

599
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,640
It's so scary because then it
just feels like, was someone in

600
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,480
the house?
Like were they in the apartment

601
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,920
that they weren't supposed to be
there?

602
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,520
You know, like you hear about
frogging, which is not like

603
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,320
Frogger the game.
It's not like that.

604
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,520
It's frogging.
PHRI don't know why they spell

605
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,000
it this way.
PHROG like a frog with a like

606
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,920
fish, the band Phish, but frog,
and they're not a band.

607
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,800
I'm explaining this terribly,
but you've probably heard of it.

608
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,640
Frogging is someone basically
squatting in your house, but you

609
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400
don't know they're there.
So they're living in the attic

610
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,800
or they're living in the walls,
or they're just living somewhere

611
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,720
in the house where you don't see
them.

612
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:14,000
And they, Oh my God, I just gave
myself a heart attack because

613
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,680
the way that I'm recording, I
didn't realize how long this

614
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,080
episode was.
And so typically this right

615
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,600
where I just screamed is where
my outro starts.

616
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,360
And so I've got outro music, but
I've also got the little, you

617
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,080
know, the Ding, Ding, Ding,
Ding, Ding.

618
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:34,480
So that noise just came over my
speakers way louder than I

619
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520
expected it to out of the blue.
And I was thinking about how

620
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,000
scary this would be in the
middle of the night, and it just

621
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,880
scared the crap out of me.
I scared the crap out of myself.

622
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,840
So great.
Thanks, Ted.

623
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,920
That's what that's what all your
stories did to me.

624
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920
So thank you.
They had me on edge, and I got

625
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,280
so scared.
My heart is racing.

626
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,360
OK.
So I don't know how the laptop

627
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,160
came on and played music, all
right, But I'm too rattled to

628
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,920
continue.
So you know what?

629
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,840
We're going to wrap it up.
So if you found yourself at any

630
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
point in your life living in a
haunted apt, a haunted house, a

631
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,240
haunted, I don't know, like a
Haunted Mansion, a Haunted

632
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,440
Mansion, that is something
that's haunted as well.

633
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,120
If you lived anywhere and you
feel like it was haunted or you

634
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,120
had these kinds of unexplained
experiences, if you spent any

635
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,480
amount of time and you have a
load of like smaller things like

636
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,880
this that have happened to you,
feel free.

637
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Do be like Ted.
Write them down, e-mail them to

638
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,800
me at madamstrangeways@gmail.com
and I would be more than happy.

639
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,240
I would be honored even to share
them on the show.

640
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:21,520
The.