July 15, 2025

The Boy at the Bottom of the Stairs | True Ghost Stories | Ep #36

The Boy at the Bottom of the Stairs | True Ghost Stories | Ep #36

We're back in Wales, in an old, haunted manor house used as a care home. We love a classic ghost story. As always, stick around after the story for a spectral analysis from the Madame about this haunting and learn a little spooky history and folklore about the fate of manor houses in the UK in the wake of World War I. Thank you to OMGrealUFO for granting permission to read their story. Remember, Strangers & Strangelings & Strangecetera: you can feel afraid and not be in danger.


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The boy at the bottom of the
stairs by OMG Real UFO.

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It seemed like a lot of you
liked my post about the

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Whispering Girl.
I don't have any other

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paranormal experiences myself,
but my Auntie Linda does and

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honestly it's one of the
scariest true stories I've

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heard.
So my Auntie Linda is a very

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straight talking woman.
She never believed in ghosts or

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the paranormal until she
experienced something.

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So this encounter was about 20
years ago.

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My Auntie Linda was working at a
care home in Wales.

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Now the care home is really old
and it's been a few different

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buildings in the past.
The building is over 100 years

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old so my Auntie Linda was doing
a night shift so she started

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working around 6:00 PM and then
would finish the next day around

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9:00 AM.
She was doing her rounds and

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checking that all of the
residents were asleep and all

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seemed fine.
She went upstairs to the staff

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room to get ready to go to
sleep.

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She was locking the staff room
toilets upstairs before she went

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to bed.
Now the staff toilets are

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directly opposite the stairs, so
when she locked them she turned

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around facing the stairs.
She then noticed what looked

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like a little boy sitting at the
bottom of the stairs.

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He was wearing old fashioned
clothing, maybe something from

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the 1920s, and was facing away
from her.

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Startled, she called out to ask
if he was OK.

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Then all of a sudden the boy
turned to face her.

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Now her description still freaks
me out to this day.

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She said.
When he turned to look at her,

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it looked like his jaw or
something was broken because his

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jaw was hanging from his mouth.
He gave her direct eye contact.

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Now you know how kids run up the
stairs sometimes using both

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their hands and feet.
This kid started to run towards

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my auntie up the stairs.
She screamed in terror and as

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soon as she screamed the boy
disappeared.

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My auntie then ran out of the
building and called her manager

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to say she's not staying the
night.

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When the manager asked what
happened she said she saw

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something at the bottom of the
stairs and they ran towards her.

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Her manager then said oh you've
seen Benny.

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Turns out the little boy was a
boy called Benny who had died

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from falling down the stairs in
the building years ago.

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Some of the residents at the
care home said he visits them

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sometimes and sits on their
beds.

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Honestly scared the shit out of
me as a child.

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This story did and my auntie to
this day swears what she saw

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really happen.
From that point onwards, she

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didn't dismiss the paranormal
anymore.

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Ba ba Ba Benny and the Jaws or
lack thereof perhaps.

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Thank you so much OMG Real UFO
for letting me read yet another

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one of your stories.
This is the second story.

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Actually, if you go back and
listen to episode number Mumble

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Mumble, I did read another one
of OMG Real UFOs stories.

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And actually that was the second
story that I read, this story

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about poor Benny and his lack of
jaw.

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This is the story that I read
first from OMG Real UFO.

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But because of the beginning, it
references an earlier story.

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I was like, well, now I got to
read both stories and I got to

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start chronologically.
So now this is actually the

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first story that I read that
really hit me because it's so

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spooky.
So look, OMG Real UFO.

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Your aunt or aunt is definitely
a victim here and she was so

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smart because you know what she
did what I love, you know I love

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to do it.
Absolutely not, absolutely not.

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Two of my favorite words,
absolutely and not.

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They have to be together though,
because I can't say absolutely

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to a ghost situation.
It's going to be an absolutely

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not for me and also for your
aunt slash aunt.

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She made the right choice there.
But poor Betty Benny is the real

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victim here.
Poor Benny.

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Benny, first of all, doesn't
have a jaw.

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So listen, there's not going to
be any jaw Breakers being

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enjoyed by poor little Benny.
Kids love jawbreakers.

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I never loved a jawbreaker
personally, but I imagine, you

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know what, like ghost kids from
the 20s and 30s, you know they

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loved a hard candy.
You know they loved them like

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barley sweets and lemon drops.
Those sound like those are

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things.
Those are old style candies.

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You know he loved those and he
can't even enjoy a jawbreaker.

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You know what?
You know what?

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Maybe a jawbreaker was involved.
No, he fell down the stairs.

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OK, OK, so no spectral jaw
Breakers will be enjoyed by poor

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Benny.
And also, of all the places to

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get stuck as a ghost, as a care
home.

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Like, no wonder he goes and sits
on the patient's beds.

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He ain't got nothing else to do,
you know, It's sad.

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Poor Benny.
What a, what a tragic end.

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I, you know, I, I, I think
someone said in the comments, I

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think there's only one comment,
but I think someone said like,

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oh, imagine those poor old
people who are waking up and

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they have this terrifying,
terrifying young child ghost

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sitting on their bed.
I however, I think that they

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would not be terrified because
here's the thing about old

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people is they have seen some
shit and also they're really

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lonely.
So I bet they were thrilled.

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I bet they looked forward to
Benny visiting them at night or

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anytime.
I bet they were thrilled to have

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him and they probably told their
stories for the five thousandth

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time to him.
And he probably had a great time

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too.
So I think you have to answer.

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You have to ask the question,
OK, when it comes to hauntings,

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right, There's residual
hauntings and there's

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intelligent hauntings.
So a residual haunting is sort

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of like a ghost repeating the
same thing over and over as if

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on a loop or like on a a record,
right?

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And it's just repeating over and
over and over again, sort of

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like the Stone Tape theory,
which is, you know, as I've

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mentioned, the theory that you
have something that happened

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over and over enough or that was
traumatic enough or, you know,

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violent enough that it sort of
stuck in time.

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And so that's that kind of like
residual haunting where the

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ghost is not interacting with
you.

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It's literally just pretending
like it's living its life and

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nothing new has changed and it
doesn't know that it's dead,

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that sort of thing.
Then intelligent haunting that

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would be some interaction.
So whether or not it's knocking

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or whether or not it's messing
with you like hiding things or

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even you know, a, a poltergeist
would technically be considered

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an intelligent haunting, but in
some way where there's an

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intelligence there and it's not
just over and over and over

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again.
Now stay with me here, because

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although Benny did turn and look
at Auntie, and even though Benny

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did run up the stairs toward
her, I don't know that that

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necessarily means that he was
doing so intelligently.

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I don't know that that means
that he was aware of her.

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Or was this just one of his
loops that he did?

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Because if you think about it,
kids with nothing else to do and

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there's stairs around, they're
going to be running up and down

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the stairs.
That's going to be their whole

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thing.
Especially like, oh God, like

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clambering up the stairs, spot
on his hands and feet.

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That's so scary.
I don't know that he was trying

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to scare Auntie.
I think that's kind of like AI

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think that's like a horror movie
trope at this point.

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You know, I, I guess the concept
of like humans moving in a way

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that seems inhuman, you know,
maybe not impossible, like maybe

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not full on heads spinning
around 360° all of the exorcist

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all right, but doing humans
moving in a way that they

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shouldn't move is just kind of
uncanny and it gives you the

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heebie jeebies, right.
So, you know, like maybe he was

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trying to scare her, but I don't
think he was.

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I think he was just being a kid.
If if this, if this is a

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haunting, if this is a ghost, I
think he was just being a kid

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and that this might actually be
a residual haunting.

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And you may say, oh, but hold
on, Madam.

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Excuse me.
Benny went and sat on the beds

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of patients.
Yeah.

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But like, if this house has been
used as a hospital for a long

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time, then it's fair to say that
actually this is just, again,

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this is just a residual thing
and that he was sitting on

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various beds and etcetera
before.

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So, you know, let me know what
you think.

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Let me know.
Do you think this sounds like a

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residual or an
intelligenthauntingmadamstrangeways@gmail.com?

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Let me know.
But also what I find the most

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compelling about these kinds of
haunting stories is that it's

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like you don't share the
assuming this is true.

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OK, I am assuming that OMG real
UFO is correctly and truthfully

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relaying the story from his aunt
who accurately and truthfully

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relayed the story to him without
embellishment, whether that

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embellishment was purposeful or
accidental.

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Because as I've said before,
yes, you're right.

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Good point that every single
time we access a memory, we're

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actually writing over it.
We're saving over the memory.

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And so actually you can't trust
a single memory that you have

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because every time you you think
of it, it's altered.

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And so truly, what is reality
and memory?

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I don't know.
Great question.

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Aside from that, assuming that
all of this is true and this is

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exactly how it happened, I think
it's always so spooky when a

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story is effectively someone
accidentally discovering the

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built in lore, especially at
their workplace.

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I don't know why work stuff is
just it's like work sucks

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already and then what?
Now I'm going to be haunted

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during work hours?
I mean, I guess I would prefer

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to be haunted on an employer's
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personally, if I had to choose.
So, OK, it's fine.

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I just find these stories very,
very spooky.

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Very spooky, you know?
OK, look, from a, from a

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naturalistic or a mundane
standpoint, could you argue that

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Auntie Auntie did hear about
Benny and kind of forgot or like

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wasn't really paying attention,
maybe heard that there was some

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kind of ghost or, you know,
sure.

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And then forgot?
Yeah.

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But I mean, you would think, you
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an included detail.
Although here's the thing about

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humans is that we do love a good
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We love a good narrative.
And so it is a better narrative

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for her to not mention that she
had already heard the story of

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Benny.
So I couldn't blame her for

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leaving that part out.
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would be doing it consciously.
She may even that's how much we

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love narrative is that we kind
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share with people.
And I know I will find myself

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doing it and I'll be thinking,
well, let's not like I am

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leaving out this detail, but it
does make a better like as I'm

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saying it, I find myself doing
it, but it just happens.

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And so I would have to then go
back and be like, OK, hold on.

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I, you know, no.
And then I got to get semantic

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and be like, well, technically
this thing OK.

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No, no, no, no, it's fine.
So from a naturalistic

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standpoint, I think the easiest,
the easiest explanation for this

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would just be that, you know,
OMG, real UFOs.

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Aunt had actually heard the
story of Benny and then

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experienced it in that order.
However, like I said, you know,

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I do like to take these stories
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So I guess a different
naturalistic explanation, you

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know, I don't know, I don't
know, I don't know.

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Besides, you know what?
Besides Auntie just sharing a

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scary story and wanting to scare
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nephews, I feel like that's, I
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That's, I mean, look, I'm not
saying I would do the same in

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her shoes, but I also couldn't
blame her.

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So I think those are the two
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for the story Would just
basically be it's a better

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narrative to tell it a little
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misremembering it over time and
not even remembering that that

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happened the other way because
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Or she just wanted to scare you
guys.

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It's one or the other.
Or there was really a ghost with

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his jaw missing named Benny.
Now, how hard do you have to

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fall down the stairs for your
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Right?
All right, so you OK.

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You may have noticed if you are
a listener of the show that I do

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have a soft spot for Wales.
I just feel like Wales get slept

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on.
I feel like in terms of the UK,

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everybody is all about, you
know, England, jolly old England

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and you know, Ireland and
Scotland and then no one really

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talks about Wales.
So I have a soft spot for Wales,

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but I don't want this to turn
into a one hour episode where I

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tell you interesting facts about
Welsh folklore and ghosts and

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hauntings and etcetera.
So do you want to hear more

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about Welsh folklore and Welsh
ghost stories?

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Let me know
madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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I would be happy to do another
episode like a Will's a Palooza,

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a Welsh, there's, I don't know,
there's something there.

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I would be so happy to do that.
So let me know

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madamstrangeways@gmail.com But
what I am going to do because I

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thought this was really
interesting.

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So what I am going to do is
explain like who and when,

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where, why, how Manor houses
would even become care homes in

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the UK and why so many of them
would be haunted as hell.

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All right, so OK in a nutshell.
In a nutshell.

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No.
Yes, this is a nutshell.

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I assure you what I am telling
you is a nutshell.

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I spent too much time this
morning researching this.

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So this is I assure you, this is
a nutshell.

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OK, so there's first you got to
say, OK, OK, OK, OK, who?

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How do I start this social
hierarchy?

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All right, you've got the
peerage and the landed Gentry

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and they are the ones that own
these manners or houses or

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estates, etcetera.
And also, when I'm talking about

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a house, I need you to
understand that what I am saying

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is not like an American house.
It's not like 1300 square feet

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or less.
I mean, this is like a mansion

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or you know what, you might even
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It's huge.
All right, so you've got the

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peerage that owns these manners
and houses, etcetera, and these

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are like hereditary titles like
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barons, Lords, etcetera.
So they are the ones that pass

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their titles down like through
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primogeniture.
Then you also have the landed

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Gentry.
So the landed Gentry don't have

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noble titles and are basically
quote UN quote, lower class or

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lower quote UN quote lower class
or quote UN quote commoners.

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So they're they're one tier
below the aristocracy, but they

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own land.
Now they may own land because

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someone else a really long time
ago owned land and then it gets

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passed down.
And so someone's great aunt dies

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and they're the only one that's
surviving in their family.

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And so now they have inherited
land.

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So because they have land, it's
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You understand the land.
The land, you understand, the

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land includes, you know, houses,
estates, etcetera, and also

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farmland.
OK, so you've got this massive

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house that requires a huge
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which includes tenant farms run
by tenant farmers who rent the

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land.
So they basically pay the land

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owners for the right to farm
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These houses would also
effectively kind of support the

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nearest town or village by
giving the people that worked or

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the people that lived their jobs
or you know, they need

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resources, they need food, they
need etcetera to run this house.

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Think Downton Abbey basically as
an American.

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I think that's probably the
easiest.

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I don't remember if Downton
Abbey, if the family had tenant

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farmers, but pretend that they
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So, you know, it's it's
basically like a little mini

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ecosystem.
And that's that's more or less

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how these houses worked.
However, with the decline in

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farming, not only due to
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depression in the 1870s.
Aside from that, you also have

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the industrial revolution
happening.

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And so, you know, cities are
booming and jobs are moving to

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the cities rather than out in
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And aside from the Depression,
you know, these farmers need

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jobs and so they're going to the
cities.

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So this is reducing the rural
labor pool.

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Literally every single time I
say rural, I always think of the

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rural juror from 30 Rock.
I think of it every single time,

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the rural juror.
All right, so it's reducing the

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rural labor pool, right?
So they're moving to the cities.

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So there's no one to work the
fields and there's no one to pay

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to work the fields, right?
And then the people in the

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villages and the towns are also
moving to the cities.

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And so now there's no one to
work at the houses.

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And then also, by the way, some
of these estate owners, like,

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you know how at least in
America, I'm sure everywhere,

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you got the term house poor.
So that would happen where,

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yeah, maybe you own all this
crazy amount of land and you

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have this estate with houses and
farmland, but you don't have any

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money.
You have no money, you know,

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especially if you inherited it
as the landed Gentry.

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And some families actually even
had multiple estates, you know,

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smaller houses, larger houses,
etcetera, all around the UK.

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So sometimes they just didn't
have A use for some of these

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houses.
And in I think in some cases

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they would just start selling
them off just to get some cash

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flow, you know, because all the
tenant farmers are gone.

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So they're not getting any rent.
So they need some money.

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So maybe that's why they were
selling it or they just want

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more money.
Maybe they had plenty of money

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and they just wanted more
because what else?

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What what is more human than
that?

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Just wanting more.
So I'm about to potentially

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enter enemy territory because
although I love history, I am no

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Tony Soprano, OK.
I don't watch World War One and

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World War 2 documentaries for
fun.

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You know, Ken Burns I know does
a great job, but it's just not

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my thing, although I do love
history.

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However, I don't know if I am
fully qualified to talk in

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detail about World War One
versus World War 2 in terms of

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the amount of injured or the
technology that was invented

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between World War One and World
War 2.

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And that was the reason why
there were far less injured

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soldiers that needed room in
hospitals in World War 2 versus

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World War One.
But you know what, just imagine

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that I just spoke very
eloquently about it and that you

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fully understand.
And obviously if you fully

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understand, that means I fully
understood.

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OK, good.
I'm glad we had that talk.

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So in World War One and World
War Two there we needed extra

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hospitals more in World War One
than in World War Two.

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We just we just we as in the the
royal we we as in the United

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Kingdom during the world wars.
So like I said, some of those

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estates were donated
temporarily, some were permanent

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and some were so badly damaged
that they just had to be, you

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know, razed to the ground.
Raz, were they razed?

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I like saying that word, but I
don't think that that I don't

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think they were burned.
They were just demolished.

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OK, it's fine.
Don't worry about it.

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I need to play SIM five I think
is how many Sims are there.

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SIM 5 is my favorite.
It's fine, don't worry about it.

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Continue, continue with the
episode.

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OK, so wartime requisition is
more or less an initial, what

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just happened there?
So in World War One and World

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War 2.
So in fact, by the end of World

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War 1 / 1400, auxiliary
hospitals had opened across the

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United Kingdom, many in private
homes.

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So just to give you an idea,
some of those places after the

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wars remained in use as
hospitals or convalescent homes

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or elder care, as in this case,
as care home.

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So especially because out in the
country you've got that like

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Crisp, the crisp country air,
the clean air, like I mentioned,

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I think in the last episode or
two episodes ago, one or the

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other, where you know, the rich
would go to convalesce to

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recover from their illness.
So a lot of these Manor houses

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were out in the country where
the air was nice and clean as

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opposed to like London where it
was awful and choking.

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But here's what I will say is
that OMG, real UFOs.

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Auntie Auntie said that Benny
was dressed like the 1920s.

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I don't think it's a stretch to
say that she probably wasn't a

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fashion expert and a history
expert.

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So I think it's safe to say that
Benny could have been dressed

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like, for instance, the year
1918.

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And for those of you who are
also not Tony Sopranos, when it

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comes to history, World War One
spanned from 1914, 1918.

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So I ask you, did he lose his
jaw falling down the stairs?

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Or did Benny suffer this injury
because of a bombing?

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Just some food for thought, just
some food for thoughts.

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So see, aren't you so glad you
waited till the end of the

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episode?
Aren't you glad you've listened

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to the end?
Because come on, we know that

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the care home was at least 100
years old in the 2000s, early

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2000s, right?
So that would be 1900.

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OK.
And it was probably older than

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that because everything in the
UK is super old.

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So it was probably older than
that.

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So to me this is my pet theory
and I don't want to be talked

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out of it.
So OMG real UFO.

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If you have information that
doesn't jive with my theory, you

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know what, I don't need to hear
about it.

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You can just keep that to
yourself.

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You don't need to tell me I'm
just kidding.

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Please tell me if you have more
details, I would love to hear it

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madamstrangeways@gmail.com.
And if any of you listening have

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ever experienced anything spooky
or if your family has a ghost

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story that they like to tell, I
would love to hear it.

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Go ahead, e-mail me at
madamstrangeways@gmail.com or

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you can go to the website at
madamstrangeways.com.

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Thank you for joining me for
more true strange stories of the

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unexplained, remember that you
can feel afraid and not be in

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danger.
You're safe here with me,

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probably.
Please follow the podcast, leave

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a rating on Spotify or Apple, or
tell your friends and foes about

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the show.
It would mean the world to me.

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The underworld, obviously.
I mean, come on, was that not?

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Was that not clear?
Madam Strangeways is produced

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and narrated by me.
Madam Strangeways theme music is

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by marina.ryan@marinamakes.co.
Cover art is by Andrea Chisel

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Roldan at Cult of Teddy on
Instagram.

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You can submit your own true
strange story at

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madamstrangeways.com or e-mail
it to

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madamstrangeways@gmail.com.
See you soon, she said

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ominously.