The Demon in the Woods | True Scary Paranormal Stories | Ep #37

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Experience with my dad that I
still have nightmares about 25

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years later.
By Holly.

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This happened circa 1998.
I was about 13.

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We lived next to a fenced and
heavily wooded area behind one

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of our local YMCA's.
Being that we lived in a large

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city, there was a ton of crime
and a few bodies had been found

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in these woods over the years.
We had an extremely religious

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Christian neighbor that my dad
was close with as they were both

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single parents.
She told my dad that there was a

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demon that lived in these woods.
As a result of negative energy

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from all the violence those
woods had seen.

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I wasn't allowed to go back
there but I still would.

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Never at night though and the
few times I did I would hear

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footsteps behind me or feel
complete dread the whole way

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home as I only used them as a
shortcut to walk home sometimes

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from a friend's house.
I know this sounds silly, but

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even in a lit up city.
Those woods were.

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So dark.
I get that.

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Woods are supposed.
To be dark.

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And what a stupid thing to say,
but this was a different kind

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of.
Darkness.

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I don't.
Know how to describe it except

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for saying they just felt evil.
Anyhow, 1998, thirteen years

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old.
I didn't have the easiest

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upbringing.
My dad was in a constant state

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of anxiety.
We were poor.

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My dad always owed money to
somebody and my brother and I

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were pretty much neglected, as
all teens in the 90s seem to

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have been.
I love my dad very much, but

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there was always some kind of
negativity or hardship in his

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life, which in turn was
reflected onto my brother and me

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because we lived with him.
My mom moved out of state when I

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was 10.
There was literally no solace

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and I lived a stone's throw away
from these woods.

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It first started with the
reoccurring nightmares.

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A blackness would seep out of
the woods like fog.

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I could never get away fast
enough.

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It would envelope me and drag me
into the woods.

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I had this dream every night for
months.

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My dad was convinced we were
under attack whereas I thought

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it was just him and the neighbor
freaking me out with their

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theories.
One night we were sitting in the

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driveway and my dad's beat up
old Volvo.

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We were having an argument.
I don't even remember what it

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was about now, but we were going
back and forth just being nasty

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to one another and I'll never
forget it.

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My dad said every time we do
this we just feed this thing

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that lives out in the woods.
I laughed at him.

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I remember saying something to
belittle him, just can't

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remember word for word.
But it was something that pretty

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much made fun of him.
And the thing in the woods.

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At that very minute, something
started beating on the trunk of

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the car.
It felt like.

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Two fists coming down on the
trunk, over and over.

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We both screamed.
It got louder and harder at that

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moment.
I threw my.

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Arms around my dad and I said.
I love.

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You, I'm sorry.
And he said the same, almost

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like a chant it became.
And as we said the words to one

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another, the blows to the trunk
became softer and lesser until

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they disappeared all together
and we were both in tears.

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Later, when he inspected the
car, there were dents that

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looked.
Like fists.

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On the back of his trunk.
I know the car was already

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beaten up to hell, but those
were not there before.

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My dad has since passed away,
but even if he were alive he

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would never talk about this.
The few times I tried to bring

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it up over the years, he shut
the conversation down just as

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fast as it was mentioned.
We moved shortly after that.

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I still believe in my heart and
soul that those woods have

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something evil living in them
and I live 3 miles away from

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them now sometimes.
I feel curious.

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Enough to try to go back and
record to catch something, but

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then again, I'm so terrified to
even think about walking into

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those woods at night.
Holly, thank you so much for.

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Sharing.
Your horrifying story with me

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and allowing me to share it on
the show, although it was

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horrifying also, it kind of did
like bring your dad and you back

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together.
At least I don't know long term

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question mark, but at the time
at least it kind of helped you

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guys see eye to.
Eye.

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Because of the fear that you
had.

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Very, very scary, but also kind
of sweet.

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So was it a demon?
Do demons bring people together,

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you know, is or is the demon in
the forest like shaking their

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fists?
Like, damn you.

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No, The power of love, that's my
one weakness.

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You know, we'll never know.
So I have a lot of thoughts

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about demons, which I want to
get into in a second.

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But before I get there.
Something.

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That jumped out at me was the
the trunk of the car, how it had

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like fist indentation marks on
it.

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You know, that's really scary.
What does that especially what

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does that while you're arguing
in the car, like, come on, read

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the room, read the room.
We're busy.

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So I don't know if anyone out
there has an idea of what could

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have been pounding on the trunk
of the car while they were

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arguing inside of it.
Let me know.

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Also, the timing.
That was really SUS.

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That was really SUS.
That's the timing.

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Anyway.
Let me know if you think, you

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know, what could have caused
that.

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What, like what?
What wildlife could have been

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banging on the trunk of the car
like that?

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Let me know Madam
strangeways@gmail.com Right?

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So let's.
Get into demons.

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If you've OK, listen, if you've
listened to the show before,

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which I hope you have.
If not, welcome.

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Welcome.
To Madam.

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Strange ways.
If you've listened before, you

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may know that I feel a certain
way about demons and the people

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spreading demon propaganda and
demon mongering, if you will,

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for lack of a better term.
So part of what I do this

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podcast for is to undo some of
that fear and anxiety for you in

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the event that you do happen to
get really scared of the thought

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of a demonic presence out to get
you.

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Or if demons really freak you
out and they keep you up at

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night after you've watched a
scary movie and there's demons

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and you're thinking, well, gosh,
demons are everywhere.

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They're invisible and they could
be anywhere at any time.

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Oh my God, like, and if that
stresses you out, I feel you.

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I get you because that used to
be me.

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That used to be me.
And I'm not going.

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To lie sometimes that is still
me.

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All right.
So it's it's I'm in remission.

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I am a recovering demon, scaredy
cat, all right.

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But what helped me and what I
hope also helps you is

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researching to really
understand, like, what is a

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demon though actually, like,
what is a demon?

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So like for me, OK, when I was a
kid, you know, and I believed in

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demons because I was told to
believe in demons.

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So for me as a kid, you know,
listen, I didn't really

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understand what demons were.
I just knew they were really

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scary.
So even though I, I knew quote

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UN quote that they were real and
I knew that they could even be

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in my bedroom at night and like
lurking and watching me sleep, I

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understood that.
But what I kind of just accepted

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was that like, well, hell is
real.

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Obviously.
Satan's real, obviously.

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And Satan is the demon king, and
the demons do his bidding, and

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they're real.
And they're actively trying to

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harm me or my family or my loved
ones in the pursuit of, I don't

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know, demonic Glee.
Is this like Monsters, Inc?

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Is that the plot for Monsters
Inc?

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Except then the demons don't
eventually figure out that

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laughter gets them more demon
juice?

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I don't know.
But what I couldn't have told

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you as a child was what a demon
actually was.

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Like, maybe I maybe I would have
said that like, evil spirit,

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they were OK.
Maybe I would have said that

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like, demons were evil spirits
sent by Satan.

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But like, what does that mean?
You know, I, I think I just

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assumed that demons had been
around forever plaguing

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humanity.
I mean, honestly, I don't know,

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man.
Because looking back, I sure

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didn't ask myself any of these
questions.

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Not a single one of them.
And I bet that there's a lot of

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people who also haven't asked
themselves these questions

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either.
So let's do it.

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Let's ask what are demons?
So when you hear the word.

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Demon you could.
Be picturing Lucifer and

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Asmodeus if you're a
Supernatural fan, for instance,

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or Pizuzu if you've seen The
Exorcist, or Baphomet if you

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follow the Satanic Temple, or
Mephistopheles if you're a fan

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of the musical Cats.
Oh no, that's, that's Mr.

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Mustophiles.
That's not mephistophiles, you

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see.
OK, anyway, there's Valic, if

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you've seen The Conjuring,
though he wasn't a nun.

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There's Lilith, the first wife
of Adam, who was painted as a

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demon for wanting and achieving
agency over her own body

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directly in defiance of God.
And she's actually in a ton of

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modern media, from Supernatural
to Evangelion.

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To True Blood.
And has been hotel so she's a

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very popular demon.
Demons in general are very

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popular in modern media.
Yeah.

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So basically, you're probably
picturing A malevolent,

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intelligent agent of chaos who
is hell bent on causing human

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suffering.
Now, some of us may be picturing

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A malevolent, intelligent agent
of chaos who is also very

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attractive and charismatic.
Let's put that to the side.

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Let's unpack that on another
day.

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All right, let's come back to
that later in another episode.

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For now, Scary.
OK, scary bad.

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Not scary good.
You're probably picturing that a

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demon's soul motivation is
causing harm or even possibly

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death if the demon ends up
possessing someone, which is a

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thing that demons can do.
So, in a nutshell, when you

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think of demons, you may find
yourself afraid of something.

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You're just not sure exactly
what, only that it would be bad.

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For instance, going out into the
scary dark forest outside of

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Holly's home.
Maybe you'll come back out

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alive.
Maybe you'll be murdered.

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The result of leaving the woods
is unknown, and that's what

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you're afraid of.
You're afraid of the unknown.

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You don't know what's going to
happen when you go in there, but

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what might happen might be bad.
So you're just afraid of the

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unknown, right?
Well, as it turns out, modern

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humans really aren't that far
removed from the ancient.

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Humans of 6. 1000 years ago,
maybe even 12,000 years ago or

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more, because it's suggested
that belief in demons started as

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far back as the Paleolithic age,
which is very far.

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It's very far away so they
didn't call them demons back

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then though, and they believed
in a wide range of unexplained

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spiritual phenomena, not all of
it bad, some of it even good.

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And reminder Christianity was
not there yet, it would not be

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showing up for quite some time,
so just keep that in mind.

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From an anthropological
perspective, demons result from

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human fear of the unknown.
That is straight up, I was going

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to say a fact, but I don't know
that.

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I guess that anyway, whatever,
it's as close to a fact as we're

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going to get.
That is what anthropologists

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presume demons stem from, is a
fear of the unknown, which makes

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a lot of sense in the context of
the scary dark woods.

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Right.
Like I said, like if you go into

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the woods, maybe you'll come
back, maybe you won't.

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You don't want to get murdered,
so it's best to just stay out of

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there.
But also, there's a feeling that

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you're feeling when you're
looking at those woods and

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you're considering mortality and
what?

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How what do you, how what do you
call that feeling?

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How do you do you assign
something to it?

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Yeah, maybe you do.
So in ancient Greek religion and

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mythology, specifically around
400 BC, they still didn't have

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demons in the way that we
understand them now, but they

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did have something called
daimons spelled Dai.

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Mon.
S So daimons weren't evil by

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default.
They could be good or bad, but

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more specifically they were kind
of more akin to like like a

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guiding spirit or like a lesser
God.

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And diamonds were not servants
of the Christian Satan, which

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still has not been written into
existence by the way, or still

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not there yet.
That would come with the New

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Testament around 100 AD ish.
Because even though the word

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Satan shows up in the Old
Testament slash Hebrew Bible up,

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Satan actually wasn't a proper
noun in the Old Testament.

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It was more like a title
referring to an opponent.

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So anyway, sometimes it does
seem that diamonds and Greek

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culture were actually.
Closer to ghosts.

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Who might give spiritual
guidance?

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Think Obi Wan's ghost or Mufasa.
Sometimes though, OK.

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Sometimes though they could be
more like Hamlet's father.

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Hamlet's father's ghost, which
spoiler alert doesn't didn't

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Well, diamonds could be good or
bad.

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They were not always bad, in
fact some even thought that

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diamonds were randomly assigned
a human at birth to live inside.

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Like they cast lots to figure
out which diamond was going to

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be assigned to which human.
Kind of sounds a little bit like

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a soul to me, which is a whole
nother conversation and also

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involves the Roman views on what
their version of diamonds were,

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which I am going to hold myself
back from doing because I think

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I'm going to have to do a deep
dive on demons.

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Let me know, do you want to hear
more about demons?

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Let me know I'm out of strange.
Was at gmo.com.

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Anyway, Fast forward, Fast
forward just a little bit to the

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Hellenistic period of ancient
Greece, which was the space of

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time between the death of
Alexander the Great in 323 BC

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and the death of Cleopatra the
7th in 30 BC.

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Yes, there were many
Cleopatra's, but the Cleopatra,

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our Cleopatra, who Cleopatra is
named after was number 7.

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And just so you have your
bearings in time, just keep in

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mind that the Roman Empire came
right after Cleopatra's death

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because Egypt was a Ptolemaic
Kingdom, akaa Greek Kingdom

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ruled by Cleopatra, who was
Macedonian, and Macedonia was a

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part of ancient Greece and by
the way, Alexander the Great

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also from Macedonia.
And so when the Roman Empire

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defeated Cleopatra's naval fleet
and invaded Egypt and OK, you

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know what?
I really am just going to have

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to do another separate deep dive
on Cleopatra or like Ancient

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Egypt, I don't know.
Let me know

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madamstrangeways@gmail.com.
Let me know so I can continue.

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Anyway, moving on, Demons, we're
talking about demons, demons,

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demons, demons.
During the Hellenistic period of

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Ancient Greece, for the very
first time, diamonds were split

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into good versus evil categories
and got their own names.

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So there were noble spirits.
Agathodimon.

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This is terrible, I'm sorry.
Please let me know.

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Let me know how I mispronounced
this Madam strangeways@gmail.com

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Agathodimon versus malevolent
spirits.

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Caco diamond.
This was probably due to

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influence from Zoroastrianism,
an ancient Iranian religion that

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leaned on good versus evil and
even had its own concept of

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demons called Daiva.
I let me know Madam St.

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truth@gmail.com.
So there's even something

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similar to the Christian concept
of the devil in Zoroastrianism,

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which is called the principle of
evil and not like the principle

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of your school because that's
Prince of pal.

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This is Principal Prince E play
ple OK, the principle of evil,

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kind of like the devil who
creates and leads the Davos.

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And yes, I hear you shouting.
Of course, Iran is relevant in

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this situation because they were
very easily able to influence

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ancient Greece and Rome because
Iran was part, How did I say it

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before?
We're just going to move on

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because Iran was a part of
Alexander the Great's empire,

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which ran from Greece all the
way to India.

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And I've said before, I know Dan
Carlin, I'm no Tony Soprano.

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Also I'm no Bill Wertz.
OK, so please forgive me for

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oversimplifying history here and
possibly for getting small

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details wrong.
Hopefully the gist is correct.

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So the concept of demons as
servants of the devil entered

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the Christian tradition via
Judaism, which was also

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influenced by Zoroastrianism as
I understand it.

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So as Judaism spread through
Greece, the Greek translation of

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the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh
translated foreign gods as

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malevolent diamonds.
So the Greeks read this.

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They said, what do we, what word
do we use to translate foreign

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gods from Hebrew?
I know we'll call them

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malevolent diamonds.
OK, that's a choice.

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So from there, Christianity took
this and.

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Ran with it.
Looking around and calling any

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Pagan gods and goddesses,
including Greek and Roman

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deities, diamonds.
The bad kind because of course.

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So by around 800 ish AD Daimon
became demon.

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And even now to this day we
still specifically use demon to

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mean evil spirits under Satan's
rule.

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Specifically under Christian
dogma.

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Speaking of Christianity and
medieval Christianity, demons

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and spirits were generally
considered to be fallen angels.

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So nature spirits like fairies
from Irish and Scandinavian

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folklore were often explained as
angels who remained neutral

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during the War of Heaven.
Which seems like just like a

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really weird deal.
Really weird detail to include,

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but like, OK.
Later though, Protestants

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changed their mind on that
stance and decided that actually

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fairies are evil and also
demons.

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So there you go.
Jumping from then to the late

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1400s when Europeans started to
when Europeans, gosh, words are

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hard, When Europeans started to
colonize North America, we see

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those European colonizers
applying the same logic to any

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indigenous spirits and deities
too, calling them demons, hence

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demonizing the indigenous
peoples whose land they wanted.

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So historically, the demons that
so-called demonologists like Ed

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Warren referred to could
apparently range from fairies to

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Aphrodite.
Oh, Speaking of Aphrodite,

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remember the God Pan, often
depicted with the legs and horns

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of a goat, cloven hooves, a
beard, Mischievous.

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Yeah.
Sound familiar?

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Uh huh.
Pan influenced art imagery of

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the devil and he was in fact
called an evil diamond before it

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became demon.
Interesting.

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So if it seems strange to you
that we went from a sort of

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laissez faire attitude towards
these diamond types of spirits

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to the Satanic Panic in the
1980s where people were falsely

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accused and then literally
jailed for unsubstantiated and

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totally fictionalized instances
of satanic ritual abuse of

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children?
And don't even get me started on

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Pizzagate.
Yeah, it is strange and not

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cool.
Strange, bad, strange, gross,

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strange, scary, strange.
According to scholar Joseph

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Laycock, who is one of the
co-authors of one of my favorite

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books, The Exorcist Effect.
During the Satanic Panic,

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patients hypnotized by
therapists to recover memories

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of Satanic ritual abuse often
seemed to be recalling scenes

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from movies such as Rosemary's
Baby, The Exorcist, and The

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Omen.
So they weren't even remembering

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real things.
They were remembering things

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that happened in movies and
mistaking them as actual

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memories.
So is is that kind of what we're

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doing when we hear word that a
demon might be wreaking havoc on

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our lives or lurking in the
woods outside our house?

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Is that kind of what's happening
there?

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Is that we're picturing modern
and terrifying depictions of

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demons, or maybe our bodies are
even recalling the way that we

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felt fear and stress and anxiety
while watching a horror movie

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involving a demon.
I mean, just remembering

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listening to the soundtrack that
is specifically meant to put you

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on edge and scare you so that
you are properly primed to be

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terrified when the director
wants you to be.

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Is that what's happening?
Is that our bodies are just

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remembering that whenever we
think of demons?

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And is that why we're all so
scared of demons?

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Or is it really just actually
fear of the unknown?

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It's some food for thought, but
as always, I want to remind you

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that even when you are scared of
demons, you can feel afraid, but

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that doesn't mean you're in
danger.

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Thank you for joining me for
more true strange stories of the

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unexplained.
Remember that you can feel

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afraid and not be in danger.
You're safe.

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I mean, come on.
Was that not?

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Was that not clear, Madam?
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