The Girls | True Scary Ghost Stories | Ep #30

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And now on to our true strange
story here on Madam Strange

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Ways.
The Girls by Tori.

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I remember growing up in the 90s
and there were times that my

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mom's sisters, who died in a
fire before she was born, would

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visit our house.
They had died in another house

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downtown, which is what caused
my grandparents to purchase the

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land we own and build a house on
it to start over.

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I want to give their back story,
although it does make it a bit

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spookier.
Their names were Darlene and

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Karen.
It was rare to hear anyone say

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their actual names because
everyone referred to them as the

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girls.
They died when they were very

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young.
One was about 3 1/2 and the

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other was almost two years old.
In November of 1946 my granny

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had gone outside to hang the
laundry on the clothesline after

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she had put the girls down for a
nap.

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She started smelling smoke and
when she was trying to get into

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the house to get the girls she
wasn't able to find them due to

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the thick smoke and passed out
herself.

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The town was small and a
neighbor had called for help and

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the fire station responded
quickly and put the fire out.

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They were able to get my granny
out but were not able to find

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the girls either until they got
the fire out.

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By the time they did find them
they had hidden in a closet

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where they had died of smoke
inhalation.

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When I was growing up my mum
would tell me that her sisters

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or the girls were at our house
and she would walk to the back

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part where our bedrooms were.
I would try to follow sometimes

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out of curiosity, but I couldn't
get more than a few feet inside

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the laundry room and never made
it to the back hall or bedrooms.

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I would get so cold that I
couldn't move until I decided to

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turn around and go back to the
front part of the house.

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I remember one time when I was
probably about 11 or 12, so it

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would have been early 90s, I was
going to my room in the back and

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took maybe two or three steps
into the laundry room and

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couldn't move.
I was so cold and so I turned to

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go back up front but something
felt different and I couldn't

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move.
I was home alone since my mom

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was next door at my uncle's
house and I got scared.

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I had always been able to walk
out before I knew something was

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wrong and asked out loud if I
needed to get Mama.

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Then I was able to walk away.
I tried calling my uncle's house

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phone and no one answered so I
figured they must be outside.

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So I ran over and told my mom
she needed to come home because

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the girls were there.
We went back to our house and I

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saw my mom walk all the way to
the back and could hear her

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talking.
She never saw or heard them, but

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she said they would give her
goosebumps if the answer was

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yes.
I remember her asking them if

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something was wrong, then she
asked if it was her Mama, and

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then she asked if she was hurt.
My granny was living in Taylor

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at the time, which was just over
an hour drive from our house.

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My mom tried to call my granny
and there was no answer.

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She told me to stay home and
keep calling my granny and then

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she went to her car, drove to my
uncle's house next door and I

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saw them drive away.
When my mom got home that

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evening, she told me that when
they got to my granny's house,

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they saw her on the floor in the
kitchen.

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They got inside and called 911
and had her taken to the

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hospital.
The doctor told them that she

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had a hernia and would have died
if they had waited much longer

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to get her to the hospital.
She had an emergency surgery and

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smooth recovery, thankfully.
I cannot explain how it worked,

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but any time there was something
going on the girls would show

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up.
My mom was the only one who

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talked to them.
I know several people who would

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feel the cold in the back of the
house, including myself, my

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friends, my uncles, and even my
granny, but none of us could go

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back there.
I don't know why they chose my

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mom since they would have been
the oldest of my grandparents

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children and my mom was the
youngest of a total of seven

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children and they never met.
My mom wasn't even born until

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1953.
All I can say is I never

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hesitated when I felt them
again.

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If my mom was at work, I called
her.

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We felt them several times over
the years, but that was the only

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time they warned us about
anything so serious.

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I was just thankful they did.
Tori, that was so scary and also

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touching and also sweet.
So Tori, thank you for allowing

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me to tell you and your family's
story.

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I appreciate you trusting me
with it.

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Tori has also kindly given us
more than one story.

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You may remember a previous Tori
story in an earlier episode, How

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I Met Henry.
Very foreboding, just the title

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alone foreboding.
So go back and listen to that.

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I don't remember what number it
is, but you know, there's not

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that many.
So it's in the title, How I Met

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Henry.
It's one of the two stories.

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So those poor girls just, you
know, God huddled together in

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the closet.
Like that's so sad.

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You know, I mean, like, at least
they had each other.

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And then, you know, it sounds
like it sounds like obviously

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they're still together and that,
you know, this traumatic death,

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they're still together even in
the afterlife.

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But they're also looking out for
your family, looking out for

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your mom.
And, you know, I think you asked

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the question in the story, like,
why did they choose your mom?

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Like she was the youngest of
seven.

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She was born after they were,
you know, dead already.

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Like why?
Well, she's the baby of the

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family.
They got to look out for the

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baby of the family and they got
to look out for her.

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So I think that's sweet.
I think it's specifically sweet

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that that they talk to her.
It's it's stressful and it's

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scary, but it's also, you know,
really helpful, it seems because

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wow, what if you hadn't decided
to go to the laundry room when

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you did, you know, like, so are
they constantly?

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How do they know?
Are they, Is this like a Santa

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Claus situation?
They see you when you're

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sleeping.
They know when you're awake.

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Like what?
It's kind of scary, but also

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very, again, it's scary, but
it's comforting.

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We'll say comforting.
It's both of those things.

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Here's another thing that really
stood out to me when you

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specifically ask, like, do I
need to get my Mama?

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Like, Oh my God, that's so scary
because you just knew like,

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you're like, OK, you don't talk
to me, but something's wrong.

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Do I need to go get mom because
you won't speak to me.

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You'll just scare me.
Oh, it's so scary.

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But I'm so glad that your mom
was able to.

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First of all, I'm glad that your
mom was open to it and then that

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your mom was able to, to get to
your granny's house on time to

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help her out.
Because, you know, like you

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said, if it had just been a
little bit longer, that would

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have been a much different
story.

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And so, so sad.
But I'm, I'm so glad that that

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turned out good for your, for
your granny in the end of that

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story.
So if you're curious, for the

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listeners that are curious,
Smithville, TX is where this is

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set.
And it's, it's it's close to

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Austin, apparently Smithville.
How did I not mention this when

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I told the story before, not
this story when I told a, a

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previous Tory story.
How did I not mention this?

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Smithville apparently is where
Hope floats.

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The movie Hope floats with
Sandra Bullock was filmed.

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Love a good Sandy Bullock film.
You know, especially practical

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magic, but still very
interesting.

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Fun fact about Smithville,
probably not related to the

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story, but just to I'm painting
a picture.

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And while we're on the subject
of things that are not

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technically related to the
story, but have come up in my

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research of the story, which
should really be the name of the

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podcast since we're talking
about those things, this came up

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in my Googling.
Here it is.

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Smithville also earned the
Guinness Book of World Records

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certification for.
And I want you to guess, why

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don't you just take a moment,
take a guess.

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What do you think Smithville, TX
might have won a Guinness Book

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of World Records record for?
OK, you got your guesses locked

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in.
All right, vote now on your

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phones, okay?
They won it for baking the

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world's largest gingerbread man.
I'm tickled.

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It says the cookie.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this

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should be my news.
I'm sorry, let's start over.

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The cookie creation, baked over
hot coals during Smithville's

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annual Festival of Light
celebration in 2006 weighed

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13108 lbs, eight oz and was 20
feet tall.

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Not my gumdrop buttons.
I don't think that was a very

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good.
Not my gumdrop buttons.

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That might have been better.
I don't really do that voice

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very often, but you're welcome.
I just had to laugh because this

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is such a morbid and truly
spooky story.

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And I'm sitting here, like
steeped in it.

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And then as I'm Googling, it's
like, oh, Smithville baked the

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world's largest gingerbread man.
And also it's 20 feet tall.

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It's like, did it need to be
tall?

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I mean, I guess that is more
impressive.

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But like, to me, I feel like
they could have made it bigger

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if it didn't need to stand up.
Like if they did it flat, I feel

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like it would still count
anyway.

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OK, we're getting, I'm sorry,
we're getting into the weeds.

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Probably also unrelated to the
story is the gingerbread largest

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gingerbread man in 2006.
Probably unrelated.

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OK, so we're going back to the
girls.

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To the girls, which I like how
it's just the girls.

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Like it's so ominous, the girls,
which I think is fair because

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their names are Darlene and
Karen.

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So I feel like the girls is
definitely it has more gravitas,

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you might say.
So coming back to the girls, you

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know, they were giving the
entire time they were giving me

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the the image of the twins and
the shining with their little

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frilly light blue dresses and
holding hands and just staring

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ahead.
So scary.

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So, so, OK, so I was like, you
know what?

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Let me go down this rabbit hole
because, you know, of course I

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did.
That's what I do.

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And if you're listening, then
you, you don't hate it.

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So follow me down the rabbit
hole.

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So I'm looking into The Shining
and the twins and I thought, oh,

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they're twins for sure.
They're twins.

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They look like twins.
But so I'm looking and

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apparently the book Stephen King
wrote, which because there's got

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to be someone listening that
didn't realize it in the movie

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The Shining is based on the book
The Shining written by Stephen

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King.
So in the book, the girls were

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10 and 8.
So they're just sisters.

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They're not twins.
But in the movie, Stanley

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Kubrick, the director changed
them to twins, which is

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obviously scarier than just
sisters.

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So on On that note, I will say I
hope that the girls, although

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they didn't appear to you, I
hope they never appeared to

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anyone wearing scary matching
dresses.

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And I also hope that they didn't
conjure rivers of blood.

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So OK, sorry.
So the girls.

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No, the twins, not the girls,
the twins, the twins and The

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Shining.
OK, so yeah, I ended up watching

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this really interesting analysis
of the twins in The Shining on

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YouTube in preparation for this
episode.

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I I can't help it.
So in the comments, though, in

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the comments, people were
arguing because of course they

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were, because is it ever really
a comment section of people

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aren't arguing?
So they were arguing and OK,

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pause people argue on in comment
sections, but people really

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argue about The Shining and film
analysis of The Shining.

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I know film analysis in general
people argue, but like The

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Shining people feel very
strongly about and they've had a

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really long time to talk about
it.

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And if you have not seen Room
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of the explanations people have
for The Shining, Oh my God,

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please go watch it.
Well, first watch The Shining,

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actually watch it in whatever
order you like.

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But the documentary is really
fascinating.

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Anyway, I'm sorry, that was even
further off of topic than I

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already was.
So listen, listen, listen.

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Trust me, this is going to come
back.

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So just trust the process.
So I'm in the comments section

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of this film analysis of the
twins in The Shining and people

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are going back and forth because
they're saying like, were they

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twins or were they sisters?
Because, you know, the in the

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book, they were sisters, but in
the movie, they were played by

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actresses that were twins.
And then someone is saying that

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like, OK, in the movie, you can
clearly hear that this character

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says that the girls were 8 and
10, quote, UN quote, when they

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were murdered.
But it's like, well, is that

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like a detail that Kubrick is
instilling, trying to use to

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like instill feelings of
confusion and unease in in the

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audience because that's
something that he does in the

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rest of the movie?
Or like, is it Kubrick playing

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into the theme of mirror images
in the movie?

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Like hence?
And I'm going to be honest, I

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didn't realize this until I was
kind of watching the film

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analysis.
I've seen this movie a lot and

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I've seen a lot of theories
about the movie.

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OK, maybe I'm just not that
smart, but apparently mirror

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images is a theme in the movie.
But that this is what made it

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Click to me.
Is that like, oh, because Red

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Rum is murder backwards.
OK.

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And there's like a mirror.
OK, All right.

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I probably should have clocked
that sooner.

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Anyway.
So I had to solve the issue,

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though, because everyone is
saying 8:00 and 10:00.

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And then someone said, well,
maybe, maybe I just misheard.

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And it wasn't 8 and 10, maybe it
was 8 or 10.

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So I go, I pull the script for
the film, and the dialogue

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clearly says 8 or 10, not 8 and
10.

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So would I have included that
little tangent if I was not

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about to tell you what I'm about
to tell you?

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Probably.
OK, if I'm being real, probably.

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But listen to this when I was
going back through Tori's

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earlier emails to find the name
of the city.

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Smithville, TX.
Her first story, like I said,

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How I Met Henry, literally has
the words 8 to 10 in it, like

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quote, UN quote, the number 8 to
the number 10.

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OK, it's not 8 or 10, it's not 8
and 10, but come on, that's

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weird.
That's weird.

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Like, right.
That's so weird.

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Like I've never gone down that
rabbit hole before with The

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Shining.
And I've gone down some before.

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I've gone down more than a
normal person has gone down in

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terms of The Shining.
And I've never seen the

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discourse about 8:00 and 10:00,
eight or ten.

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And then I go back and I look at
Tori's first story, which Tori's

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first story story, which
literally has the term 8 to 10.

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She's talking about feet, not
the age of children.

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But how wild is that?
Come on, that was weird.

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OK.
And that's also kind of like a

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really perfect segue to one of
the explanations that I have for

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this story.
So I've talked in a previous

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episode and damned if I can
remember which one.

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I was even trying to find it.
So if anyone knows which one I'm

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talking about, feel free e-mail
me mattstrangeways@gmail.com or

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leave a comment on Spotify and
let me know.

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I talked about this in a
previous episode, but it's

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relevant here again.
It's this concept called

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simulpathy, which is this term
that is coined by Doctor Bernard

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D Beitman, a psychiatrist.
And so in a nutshell, simulpathy

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is it's it's combining the words
of like simultaneous and like

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sympathy, meaning like suffering
together.

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And you mash those words
together and basically what it

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means is like you are
experiencing something that is

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telling you that a loved one is
either in pain or has died.

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And there's no way that you
should know.

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You know, one of the examples
that he shares is his own

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personal story, which I did
share in that previous episode.

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So I won't read it exactly as he
said it.

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But basically he was in his
house and he was choking and he

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couldn't stop choking and he
didn't understand what was

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happening.
And then come to find he finds

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out later that his dad had died
at that exact same moment.

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And it was due to, I don't
remember the reason, but he,

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his, his throat filled with
blood and he was choking.

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And then at the exact same time,
his son is experiencing this

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unexplained choking experience
like halfway across the country

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or fully across the country.
Like how does that happen?

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How does that happen?
Like that's so scary.

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There's other anecdotes that are
also scary.

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Also scary where this lady said
she woke up 1 morning and was

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just like Oh my mother died.
And then you know gets a call

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later saying oh your mother's
died, your mother died.

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Or you know this man who had a
dream one night and it was his

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brother like in a velvet lined
coffin.

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And like he wakes up from the
dream and like 5 minutes later

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his sibling calls to say passed
away just like he thought in the

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dream.
You know, crazy, crazy stuff.

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And it's just anecdotal.
So like, you know, is it real?

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Did those things happen?
You know, is some of this like,

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you know, down to memory and and
you're misremembering and, you

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know, because I've talked before
at length about how infallible

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memory is.
But the story that Tori told, I

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don't think has anything to do
with being confused and, you

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know, misremembering things
because that it's just like that

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feels like a story that is like
part of a family's lore.

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You know, there's multiple
people that can corroborate the

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story.
Like there's the mom, there's

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the uncle, obviously grandma,
you know, so I mean, she wasn't,

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they weren't all there to
witness the girls, but obviously

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the girls is a known phenomena
in the family.

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So OK, so really what I'm, I'm
what I'm trying to get to is,

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yes, those are just anecdotes.
But apparently Doctor Biteman

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was involved in a study that was
called the Weird Coincidence

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Survey, which, OK, I mean, it
is, it's true, I guess it does

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exactly what it says on the 10.
And that was in 2009, and it had

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more than 2500 respondents.
And so the people in this survey

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reported that they occasionally
experienced the pain of a loved

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one at a distance, which is
basically exactly what happened

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to Tori, except that the girls
were the conduit there.

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Like instead of Tori.
Well, I mean, I guess Tori, I

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guess you did kind of have like
a physical reaction, like a

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distress.
You felt distress and you didn't

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know why.
And then, you know, obviously in

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that case it was, you know, you
did attribute it to the girls.

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But like, you know, there's, I
mean, there's something there.

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This does sound very similar to
what is it called semopathy.

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I keep saying semopathy.
I had to re record a few times

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because I keep saying it wrong.
So I'm sorry doctor Biteman, it

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just doesn't roll off the
tongue.

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So this does kind of sound like
semopathy.

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That's just so crazy.
Like even you know what?

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Here's what it is.
Even if it was a coincidence,

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like, what are the odds?
Like the coincidences that would

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need to be involved in like,
you, OK, you got yourself

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scared.
You thought maybe it's the

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girls.
And then you go get your mom and

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then your mom calls Granny, and
then Granny doesn't pick up.

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And then coincidentally,
Granny's on the floor and she

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needs to go to the hospital
immediately or she's not going

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to make it.
Like, that's crazy.

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That's wild.
I do not have a more

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naturalistic or mundane
explanation for it.

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So I will land on this being
mysterious.

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It's mysterious.
And like I said in the

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beginning, you know, it's scary
but also really comforting.

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I do wonder, like, have the
girls, do the girls still give

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messages and like, will they
ever talk to you?

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It's kidding.
I don't want to get too morbid,

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but you know, like, do they stay
with the family?

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Is this going to be a
generational situation?

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You know, I don't know.
Let me know how you feel about

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it.
Madam strangeways@gmail.com.

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I know you have my e-mail.
I don't need to give it to you,

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but Tori, thank you again so
much for trusting me to tell

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your story and your family
story.

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So thank you very much.
You know, if you're back at that

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house anytime soon, tell the
girls I said hey, I feel like

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they're earning their keep way
more than usual.

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Ghosts.
So good for the girls and if

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anyone listening has a similar
story or they also have some

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kind of family lore that
involves knowing when something

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is wrong with someone else in
your family or a loved one, I

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want to hear about it. e-mail me
at madamstrangeways@gmail.com.

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And remember, it doesn't have to
be a really long form story, it

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can be a quick one.
So thanks in advance for sharing

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with me.
Thank you for joining me for

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more true strange stories of the
unexplained, remember that you

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