Whimsigoth Ghost + Haunted Indianapolis | True Spooky Ghost Stories | Ep #20

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AM E Well, hello, my little

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It's me Madam Strange Ways, with

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two new true strange stories of
the unexplained paranormal.

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Or just kind of spooky.
And as always, solicited or not,

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and observations after each

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spooky tale.
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and get cozy while I read you
these true strange stories here

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And now on to the Strange

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stories.
The floral shop by Financial

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Mission 259.
I used to work in a floral shop

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in my late teens to early 20's.
The shop was in an old one story

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plus attic house.
It was a small company and I was

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very close to my Co workers who
were women in their mid 50s.

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I was alone in the shop one
afternoon walking through the

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retail waiting area to the front
display cooler.

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The retail area had a seating
nook with a couch and armchair

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plus a coffee table for bridal
consultations.

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On my way back from the cooler,
as I was turning I saw a man

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sitting in the armchair.
He was elderly, in a dark suit

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and had a full head of white
hair.

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Upon turning to face him
directly, he was no longer

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there.
I was creeped out but didn't

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want to react because it felt
wrong to do so for some reason.

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So I just went back to work and
kind of put it out of my head

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for the day.
Over the course of a few months,

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I kept seeing him always when I
was alone in the shop and always

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in that chair.
One day I got the courage to

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bring it up to my boss.
I asked her, Have you ever felt

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or seen anything weird in the
shop?

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Her eyes went wide and she asked
not the guy in the chair.

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I accepted him as very real
after that, would casually

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acknowledge him when I would see
him and it was kind of a no big

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deal at all.
One afternoon I was again alone

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in the shop doing some chores.
Flower shops always have a lot

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of buckets to wash and that was
my Saturday chore.

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As the shop was a converted old
house, there was a utility sink

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in what used to be the laundry
room.

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It was a cramped space.
Standing at the sink, I turned

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to grab another bucket from the
stack behind me.

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He was right there, standing
just to the right of the bucket

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stack, not 2 feet behind me.
I jumped, did a startled AH, and

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dropped the bucket.
I composed myself quickly,

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turned the utility sink off and
did the thing I have never

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stopped feeling bad about.
I yelled at him and cussed and

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said he absolutely could not go
creeping around right behind me.

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After that day he was gone.
Never saw him again.

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Oh no, never saw him again.
Oh, that's so sad.

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Like your flower shop ghost
buddy.

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Although OK, I don't think this
is your fault.

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I don't think this.
I'll tell you why, because he

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kind of overreacted.
I mean, what are you expecting?

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If you're a ghost, you're
creeping around, you scare the

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shit out of someone, of course
they're going to scream and cuss

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and tell you to stop being a
creep.

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So, you know, maybe if he wasn't
being a creep, you wouldn't have

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had that reaction.
So I think I think that you

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didn't do anything wrong or
although, OK, hold, hear me out.

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What if because you know, ghosts
have unfinished business, right?

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What if his unfinished business
was that he needed to be yelled

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at and put in his place and
called a creep?

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What if that was his unfinished
business and you provided that

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for him and now he was able to
move on and that's why you never

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saw him again so actually has a
happy ending.

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What I love most about this
story is how cozy it is.

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You know, there's like cozy
games and, you know, cozy cozy

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books and then there's cozy
ghost stories apparently,

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because that's how this kind of
reads to me is sort of 90s whims

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of goth.
That's the vibe.

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It's it's like this is a cozy,
but this is a cozy Halloween

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ghost story movie and there's a
romance in it.

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And like the the ladies that
work at the shop that are in

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their mid 50s, they're kind of
playing matchmaker and the house

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is kind of in disrepair, but not
unloved, not like neglected

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disrepair.
It's it's just a well loved

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house that's seen a lot of
stuff.

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So I I'm fully green light this
movie, green light this movie.

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I want to watch this movie.
I think it needs to have Stevie

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Nicks needs to do some music.
This is basically just sort of

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like the 2024 practical magic
reboot is really what the story

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is giving me.
I don't know, I'm just loving

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it.
I think it's this is a great

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story.
I was so drawn to the story

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because of just the just the
vibes that I got from it, but

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also then also very scary
because you look over and you

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see a man in an armchair sitting
in an armchair.

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You see him not just like, did I
see someone?

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You're like, I saw this old man,
dark suit, head full of white

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hair, sitting in a chair.
And then when I look again, he's

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gone.
There's no old man.

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There's no old man with the full
head of white hair in a dark

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suit sitting in a chair.
No, it the chair is empty.

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I do what I also love so much.
Maybe love is not the word of

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what I find really fascinating
is that in so many of these

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ghost stories, everyone just
sort of agrees silently to just

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not talk about this stuff.
Like, I'm not going to think

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about it.
I'm not going to talk about it.

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I'm just going to act like
nothing happened.

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And then of course, everyone is
experiencing the same thing.

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It's just everybody's in deep
denial, like fingers in their

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ears.
La, la, la, la.

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There's no ghosts here.
There's nobody here but as

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chickens, definitely no ghosts.
Of course your boss.

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Of course your boss has seen the
guy in the chair.

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That's what's crazy is it's not
even like, oh, you've seen the

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old man or like, oh, you've seen
the shadow figure.

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They specifically say not the
guy in the chair, which is

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exactly what you saw after you
saw it and you didn't even talk

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about it.
Oh, goosebumps.

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Now this author did tell me that
there are more details about

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this story and there are other
stories, but I was too

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impatient.
I was too impatient to wait and

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I really wanted to share this
story.

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So I will give an update if I
get an update and I will share

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future stories if I get those.
But love this story.

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I'm ready to watch the movie.
Tell me who you think should

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star in it.
Who are the love interests?

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What's going on?
Is there a plot twist?

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Is the old man in the chair the
love interest?

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Is this a ghost?
Capital G Ghost the movie?

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Is this a ghost situation?
Let me know what you think.

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Indianapolis by Ted I will
preface this story with me

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experiencing paranormal events
in the past, but rarely seeing

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apparitions.
I've seen them maybe twice in my

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adult life before this, So what
happened here is extraordinary.

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We went to Indianapolis to
attend a cousin's wedding.

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It was a large group of us
including everyone in my

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immediate family and some other
cousins.

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We booked a large multi room
house on Airbnb to stay in.

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The first thing I noticed when I
pulled up was how Victorian and

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old the house looked.
It was in a historic part of

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Indianapolis and I figured the
owner is smart to turn an older

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building into an investment
opportunity.

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We stayed in the house and got
ready for a few days of

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activities.
On one night.

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I went to sleep pretty late and
was tired from a day of driving

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and attending events.
My wife was in the bathroom

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getting ready for sleep.
I got on the bed.

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The bright white light was on
when I closed my eyes.

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I felt the room getting darker
through my closed eyelids.

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When I opened them what seemed
like a second later, the room

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had a flickering yellow hue,
seemingly from candle lights.

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Standing at the foot of the bed
was an older white man in a

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colonial outfit, and he seemed
like an officer because he had a

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Saber by his side.
I looked over to my right and

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there stood an older white woman
with salt and pepper hair and a

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white nightgown.
The older woman was looking into

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the distance while the older man
in the colonial outfit was

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looking at me.
I figured I'm hallucinating from

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sleep paralysis, except I could
feel my limbs, albeit a little

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bit tingling.
I pushed myself to sit up and

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the older woman turned to look
at me.

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I realized I am awake and this
is not sleep paralysis.

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I closed my eyes to avoid their
stairs.

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When I did I saw myself standing
on the sidewalk and an

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intersection.
I looked up and saw the signs

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for the cross streets
Pennsylvania and 22nd.

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A sedan was speeding and crossed
the intersection.

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It hit a pedestrian.
The pedestrians face zoomed into

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mine.
I saw her, an older black woman

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with a short buzz cut hair.
A name appeared in my head.

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Wendell.
I jolted awake yelling help but

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only whimpered.
My wife came out of the bathroom

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asking what happened.
I told her what I've seen and

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she said let's just go to sleep.
So we did.

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In the morning I looked on the
map and Penn versus 22nd is one

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street over where we stayed on
21st.

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I rationalized that I must have
seen Penn and 22nd on the drive

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over and incorporated the
location into what I saw.

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The Colonial officer, an older
woman, However, I had no

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explanation for, nor the name
Wendell or the pedestrian

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getting hit by the sedan.
A couple of nights later, I

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stayed up late in the kitchen to
talk to an uncle.

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We've had a few beers, but not
drunk or inebriated.

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It was early in the morning.
I sat across the table from him.

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Behind his head on the wall was
an Oval vanity mirror, angled

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downward so I could see his
reflection and mine.

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I glanced up at the mirror in
the middle of the conversation

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and saw a dark shadow figure
moving on the wall behind me.

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It stopped, waved its right
hand, and continued moving out

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of view.
I turned around and of course

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there was nothing there.
I kept it to myself until before

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we departed home and told my
wife of the experience.

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Overall, it was an extraordinary
trip to Indianapolis.

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I've learned that from now on,
whenever I travelled to historic

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places, I'm keen to expect
something to happen, maybe just

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a bit mundane, or maybe up to
and including seeing

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apparitions.
Ted, thank you so much for

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another one of your eerie
stories.

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Your stories always tend to
have.

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If anyone hasn't, if anyone
hasn't listened to previous

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episodes, Ted has had a couple
stories and he has some more.

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So what I what I tend to find in
Ted stories is that there is

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usually an aspect of some sort
of dreamscape where you know,

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are you, are you seeing the
future?

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Are you seeing the past?
Are you, what's going on?

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Who are these people that you're
seeing?

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So really scary, really scary to
think about.

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Is there are you being Ted?
Are you being communicated with

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in your dreams?
You know, I've mentioned before

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in previous episodes that a
dream state is typically when

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you hear people saying, well,
you know, the fae like to

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communicate through dreams, the
dead communicate through dreams.

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Like our minds are just more
open, open to different

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possibilities and you know,
frequencies and etcetera.

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Kind of similar to the reason
why children are more

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susceptible, probably because
their brains are not filled with

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spreadsheets and doctor's
appointments times and to do

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lists and oh, I've got to
exercise and how am I going to

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fit that in when I got to take
the dry cleaning?

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I don't know.
I've never taken anything dry

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cleaning.
But these are just adult

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thoughts that people have that
that kids don't.

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Kids don't have those thoughts.
So it's easier to get in there.

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They're less jaded.
And when we're asleep, you know,

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maybe we're a little bit more
open to that sort of stuff.

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Also, some people just just
dream really vividly and lucidly

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a lot.
They're just naturally good at

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it.
So it sounds like Ted, it sounds

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like maybe you wish you weren't
good at it, but whatever the

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reason, you have a lot of you
have a lot of eerie dreams.

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They're kind of like David Lynch
sort of vibe dreams to me.

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Like they're, I'm never like,
oh, that's a nice dream.

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I'm always thinking that's a
creepy dream.

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And this one is no different.
Now I did do some research, and

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by research I mean Googling.
I did do some Googling for

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accidents or deaths near
Pennsylvania and 22nd in

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Indianapolis.
I looked for anything, any news

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happening on those cross
streets.

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I couldn't come up with
anything.

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I also searched for Wendell,
Wendell death, Indianapolis,

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Wendell Pennsylvania 22nd
accident Pennsylvania 22nd.

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Oh I I couldn't find anything
but you know what?

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Here's what I'll say.
Google.

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I don't know at the time of this
recording.

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So 11/10/2024.
Google sucks now.

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Google sucks now.
I don't know if anyone else is

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noticing it.
The the AI stuff that they're

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using in Google makes it
impossible to search for things.

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I used to be so good at Googling
now Google thinks it knows what

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I want and so it gives me those
results, but actually it doesn't

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have any idea what I want it's
wrong and so it's giving me

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completely unrelated results
even if I put things in quotes

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you guys saying this sorry we're
going on this.

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This is the rant that we're
going on right now I'm sorry Ted

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pause.
I need everyone to tell me are

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they experiencing this with
Google?

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I even looked into like, how can
we roll this back?

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Can we access a good version of
Google?

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Still Nope, not that I can find.
So if, if, if you know of one,

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let me know.
But I did search for it.

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But you know what?
Maybe I should have binged it.

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Maybe I should have binged it or
like Duckduckgoed it.

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Or is Ask Jeeves still a thing?
I'm going to need to expand my

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searches because this is not
tenable for my research.

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So I couldn't find anything.
That doesn't necessarily mean

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that nothing happened at that
cross street.

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Or, you know, you could argue
that this is something that

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hasn't happened yet, that there
will be something that happens

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there.
Although if it's if it's

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important of upcoming death that
you've experienced, you know,

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you're you're having some
clairvoyance, you're seeing into

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the future, then what is that
figure that's lurking around the

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kitchen while you guys are just
sitting and hanging out having a

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having a nephew to uncle Convo
and there's this shadow lurking

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around the shadow creature.
And so what's that?

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Who's that, you know, is the
dark shadow figure connected to

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the name Wendell that you dreamt
about?

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Or is the shadow unrelated to
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Is that Wendell?
I also keep thinking about the

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song, Mr. Wendell.
Mr. Wendell?

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Yeah.
Oh, Mr. Wendell.

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I hope it doesn't get taken down
because I did that little bit of

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a song.
But it's a great song.

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It's a it's a really good song.
I bet it's got a really good

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message.
Thinking back, I can't really

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remember a lot of the lyrics,
but I don't know, you know, what

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pause we're going to see.
Does that song have anything to

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do with Indianapolis?
Unfortunately, there does not

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seem to be any connection
between the 1992 Arrested

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Development song Mr. Wendell and
Wendell from Your Dream.

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First of all, they're spelled
differently, so doesn't seem to

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be any sort of connection there.
But it is still a bop, so I

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still recommend listening to it.
But in your bedroom, you had the

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the old Colonial soldier officer
and then the old woman look in

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her nightgown, which is so weird
and scary.

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But you've got these two people
that you're seeing in the house.

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Are they related to the we're
going to, we're going back a

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little bit.
Are they related to the shadow

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figure?
Is the shadow figure related to

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them?
Are they related to the

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accident?
But when you see these, when you

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see these apparitions, even if
it's, you know, and even if it's

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in a dream, when you see these
apparitions, what a lot of

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people attribute this to is what
they call stone tape theory.

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If you're unfamiliar with the
stone tape theory, it's more or

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less that places have memories.
And that's a that's a massive

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oversimplification, but anywhere
that things are happening, which

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is a lot all over the place,
that that place where that thing

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is happening, may you know,
quote UN quote, record it in the

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energy that's around the area.
And so if something happens

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enough times, it can be
recorded, quote UN quote, and

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then it will just play back.
So it's sort of related to

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psychometry, which is, you know,
if you've ever seen content

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where someone touches something
and then they get a memory from

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it and they can read this, they
can read the item by touching

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it.
Like it's sort of related to

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that.
Apparently it was popularized in

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the 1961 book Ghost and Ghoul
written by TC Lethbridge who was

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an archaeologist turned
paranormal researcher, which I

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didn't know until just now is
what I want to do when I grow

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up.
I want to become an

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archaeologist and then I want to
turn into a paranormal

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researcher who writes books
called Ghost and Ghoul.

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So apparently he popularized the
idea and in the book he does not

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call it the Stone Tape.
But then it inspires this 1972

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BBC Christmas ghost story play
that they named the Stone Tape.

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And so then that's why we have
the term stone tape theory is

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they learned it from this TC
Lethbridge, who did not call it

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the Stone Tape, but because they
were inspired by it and the

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story they wrote is called the
Stone Tape.

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It's called the Stone Tape
theory.

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So sort of cyclical.
Also, by the way, if you're not,

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if you're not hugely into
British media, you know, man,

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they love a Christmas special
and they love ghost story

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Christmas specials.
And I guess that's why in all

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the Christmas songs, the old
timey Christmas songs you hear

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they talk about like telling
ghost stories at Christmas.

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Apparently that's we have the
Brits to thank for that.

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So thank you, yes, yes, very
good.

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Thank you, appreciate that.
So that's the stone tape theory

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is, is basically that places
have memories and you know, it's

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it's why do they, I don't know
why the things that they

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remember are played on loop.
I don't know why they remember.

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They the places remember the
things that they remember.

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I don't know why it's just
little clips.

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You know, I don't, I don't know,
I don't know the psycho pseudo

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scientific.
I don't know the full

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explanation of it, but I do know
that Charles Babbage was into

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this.
And I realize and I say that

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probably not everybody has heard
of Babbage.

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In the 90s, there were computer
stores called Babbages, and it

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was a reference to Charles
Babbage, who was an inventor who

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came up with the idea for the
first programmable computer.

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Except I'm sorry, we've gone on,
we've gone on too many tangents

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here, but I'm sorry, I can't let
this stand.

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Ada Lovelace, who is the the
actual first computer programmer

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and who is a woman, was
corresponding with Babbage

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during his development of his
analytical engine.

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And just FYI, she developed the
algorithm that would enable his

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engine to calculate some kind of
complicated number sequence that

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I don't understand and would
never claim to.

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But even though, even though her
letters are in her own

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handwriting where she is giving
him this information, some

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scholars still argue they're
just not sure if this is

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actually her idea, even though
it's in her handwriting and it's

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documented.
Interesting.

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So Babbage who may have I guess
invented the first programmable

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computer, but could not have
done so without Ada Lovelace,

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who Yes, by the way, is Lord
Byron's daughter.

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We're not getting into another,
we're not doing this.

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We're not getting into another
tangent.

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I just thought everybody should
know, yes, Charles Babbage, that

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Charles Babbage also bought into
the Stone Tape theory.

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A lot of people just consider it
as as fact these days, but at

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the time it was, it was kind of
novel and the spiritualist

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movement and etcetera.
So Stone Tape theory would

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neatly explain why you saw a
colonial soldier and then some

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strange old woman in a bed, in
her bedclothes, in her

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nightgown, hanging out in your
bedroom.

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Yeah.
If it's a historical building,

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which you said it was, it I
mean, it stands to reason that

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both of them have been in that
space, occupied that space over

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time, probably not at the same
time.

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And Stone Tape theory just
happened to take a little, take

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a little snapshot at both of
them and played it back for you

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when you were most open to
seeing it.

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And that was when you were
asleep.

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Because you see a lot of stuff
when you're asleep, Ted.

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You see a whole lot of stuff.
I see a lot of stuff too, but it

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doesn't make any sense.
Like one time I had a dream that

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I adopted a baby pig and then
suddenly, just in the blink of

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an eye, she was walking out the
door and had turned into more of

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a little girl than a little pig.
And she turned around and she

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said, I'll be back Thursday.
And I was like, wait, what?

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They grow up so fast.
So I don't have the sorts of

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dreams that Ted has.
Ted's dreams are like a a

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shortcut beyond the veil is all
I can figure out at this point.

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And you'll be hearing more of
Ted's stories.

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And if you have one or more
stories that you would like to

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share with me, you can just
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